Law School Rankings - 2021

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Rank Name % w/ debt Avg. debt LSAT 50th GPA 50th Peer r. Legal r. Accept. Employ. JD+ employ. Bar pass Student-faculty
1 Yale University 66.2% $135,680 173 3.94 4.8% 4.7% 7.0% 94.5% 83.41% 124.4% 4.4
16 University of Texas at Austin 59.3% $113,386 168 3.76 4.1% 4.3% 18.0% 87.9% 87.88% 121.0% 6.0
29 Boston College 63.0% $114,838 164 3.69 3.4% 3.8% 32.0% 69.5% 88.26% 112.93% 6.4
50 University of California (Hastings) 74.4% $127,868 158 3.42 3.2% 3.6% 39.0% 48.0% 75.73% 113.91% 8.1
70 University of Kansas 73.5% $84,646 157 3.66 2.7% 3.2% 60.0% 59.8% 86.27% 102.89% 7.3
91 Rutgers University (merged) 75.3% $62,210 156 3.31 2.7% 2.9% 44.0% 72.4% 74.53% 96.01% 8.4
111 Indiana University - Indianapolis 77.4% $97,756 154 3.45 2.5% 2.8% 56.0% 39.8% 77.78% 92.9% 9.1
129 University of Baltimore 153 3.32 55.0% 73.23% 94.53%
147 Ave Maria School Of Law 151 3.37 52.0% 46.97% 78.88%
147 Florida A&M University 147 3.3 34.0% 53.49% 81.99%
147 Northern Illinois University 149 3.2 59.0% 84.34% 106.23%
147 Widener University—Delaware 149 3.22 63.0% 68.27% 73.76%
2 Stanford University 60.8% $146,235 171 3.89 4.8% 4.9% 10.0% 93.6% 90.11% 128.2% 4.4
16 Washington University in St. Louis 63.3% $92,504 169 3.88 3.7% 3.9% 20.0% 88.0% 91.91% 113.25% 4.6
29 University of Illinois—Urbana Champaign 65.1% $80,134 162 3.64 3.2% 3.4% 43.0% 73.9% 94.26% 123.76% 5.0
52 Southern Methodist University 56.4% $140,241 162 3.73 2.7% 3.2% 41.0% 71.5% 89.09% 111.94% 8.5
72 Loyola Marymount University—Los Angeles 73.7% $152,667 160 3.59 2.8% 3.2% 36.0% 48.0% 80.06% 112.34% 9.2
91 Illinois Institute of Technology (Kent) 72.1% $100,593 158 3.48 2.6% 2.8% 47.0% 56.9% 78.88% 107.32% 7.6
111 Stetson University 155 3.44 52.0% 79.76% 108.89%
129 Suffolk University 154 3.44 69.0% 77.7% 82.95%
147 Barry University 148 3.02 59.0% 52.17% 80.17%
147 Florida Coastal School Of Law 149 3.12 46.0% 65.15% 85.85%
147 Northern Kentucky University 152 3.19 65.0% 75.86% 84.57%
3 Harvard University 69.5% $170,866 173 3.88 4.8% 4.8% 13.0% 96.3% 91.99% 125.21% 7.1
16 Vanderbilt University 61.5% $143,293 167 3.82 4.0% 4.1% 23.0% 85.7% 92.34% 121.85% 6.6
29 Brigham Young University 65.7% $51,048 166 3.82 2.9% 3.3% 37.0% 82.2% 83.33% 112.01% 5.7
53 Yeshiva University (Cardozo) 57.3% $112,474 162 3.65 2.9% 3.1% 38.0% 53.1% 85.05% 101.46% 6.0
72 University of Miami 67.8% $140,595 159 3.53 2.9% 3.3% 51.0% 53.8% 78.22% 109.26% 6.4
91 Saint Louis University 79.7% $102,442 155 3.45 2.4% 2.7% 62.0% 72.2% 90.85% 107.52% 6.3
111 University of Tulsa 155 3.38 60.0% 88.64% 102.85%
129 University of Toledo 152 3.43 66.0% 80.0% 103.9%
147 California Western School Of Law 152 3.24 53.0% 61.79% 70.95%
147 Golden Gate University 150 3.02 55.0% 48.6% 62.43%
147 Nova Southeastern University 152 3.19 47.0% 66.37% 92.73%
4 University of Chicago 61.4% $191,117 171 3.89 4.6% 4.7% 18.0% 97.7% 94.55% 126.38% 5.2
19 University of Southern California 64.6% $140,773 167 3.83 3.6% 3.8% 17.0% 86.6% 90.18% 125.22% 6.7
29 University of Wisconsin 75.7% $71,467 163 3.61 3.4% 3.6% 42.0% 75.7% 93.55% 129.89% 7.4
53 University of Richmond 70.7% $114,514 161 3.62 2.8% 3.0% 44.0% 64.8% 81.67% 105.92% 4.8
72 St. John's University 66.3% $123,646 160 3.62 2.4% 2.9% 41.0% 68.2% 90.99% 104.37% 7.9
91 Michigan State University 78.1% $98,421 156 3.56 2.5% 3.0% 59.0% 51.2% 79.74% 105.74% 8.7
111 DePaul University 155 3.41 50.0% 79.81% 93.07%
134 Chapman University 159 3.52 33.0% 74.85% 85.75%
147 Campbell University 152 3.37 63.0% 78.57% 114.59%
147 Liberty University 151 3.4 55.0% 84.31% 119.09%
147 Ohio Northern University 150 3.26 50.0% 82.98% 111.71%
4 Columbia University 65.7% $190,141 172 3.82 4.7% 4.7% 17.0% 98.9% 97.22% 116.73% 5.2
20 Boston University 63.4% $104,584 167 3.8 3.5% 3.6% 25.0% 78.6% 89.68% 113.46% 6.1
35 University of California—Irvine 69.2% $131,786 166 3.61 3.6% 3.5% 20.0% 68.7% 81.56% 116.85% 5.6
53 Temple University 72.9% $86,344 161 3.57 3.8% 3.0% 36.0% 64.4% 90.74% 106.36% 6.6
72 Case Western Reserve University 66.3% $123,646 159 3.5 2.4% 2.9% 47.0% 68.2% 77.62% 103.17% 7.9
91 Howard University 88.0% $109,826 153 3.41 3.0% 3.1% 34.0% 54.9% 78.2% 88.96% 8.6
111 University of Missouri—Kansas City 153 3.43 55.0% 88.41% 101.23%
134 University of Montana 156 3.44 60.0% 77.46% 97.01%
147 Capital University 150 3.21 76.0% 67.33% 92.93%
147 Oklahoma City University 147 3.32 63.0% 72.87% 79.29%
6 New York University 57.7% $174,780 170 3.82 4.6% 4.5% 22.0% 95.6% 89.88% 116.34% 5.8
21 University of Florida (Levin) 65.2% $65,528 165 3.84 3.3% 3.6% 20.0% 79.5% 91.24% 122.55% 5.7
35 Fordham University 60.5% $140,184 164 3.64 3.4% 3.6% 27.0% 74.9% 87.7% 107.04% 6.7
41 George Mason University 64.2% $78,719 164 3.77 2.7% 3.1% 23.0% 75.8% 87.57% 117.09% 4.1
53 Texas A&M University 73.8% $82,886 160 3.76 2.7% 2.7% 22.0% 58.8% 92.31% 116.78% 5.9
60 University of Houston 67.2% $91,014 160 3.57 2.8% 3.0% 34.0% 56.4% 80.95% 110.21% 5.5
72 Wayne State University 67.6% $67,832 159 3.65 2.3% 2.7% 37.0% 61.2% 83.46% 115.54% 6.7
81 University of Kentucky 81.1% $80,368 155 3.54 2.5% 3.0% 61.0% 66.9% 92.64% 98.05% 7.5
96 University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 79.5% $68,877 155 3.61 2.4% 2.6% 54.0% 36.8% 76.92% 103.94% 6.7
98 University of Buffalo—SUNY 77.8% $89,628 155 3.52 2.3% 2.8% 45.0% 55.6% 80.14% 85.63% 5.6
116 Cleveland State University 153 3.35 47.0% 80.68% 95.21%
119 New York Law School 153 3.47 52.0% 87.5% 90.64%
134 Belmont University 156 3.6 39.0% 85.37% 119.48%
141 Creighton University 152 3.25 63.0% 75.0% 89.32%
147 Charleston School Of Law 150 3.2 55.0% 55.67% 66.64%
147 Regent University 155 3.45 51.0% 82.61% 107.3%
6 University of Pennsylvania 62.4% $163,383 170 3.89 4.4% 4.5% 14.0% 95.4% 94.8% 121.81% 4.7
22 University of Minnesota 65.2% $95,274 165 3.77 3.6% 3.6% 36.0% 84.8% 92.41% 116.86% 6.0
35 Washington and Lee University 70.8% $98,982 163 3.63 3.1% 3.7% 37.0% 77.3% 92.73% 116.53% 7.3
41 Wake Forest University 70.4% $99,277 163 3.73 3.1% 3.5% 18.0% 74.9% 90.06% 114.13% 7.4
53 Villanova University 64.3% $92,477 160 3.63 2.6% 3.3% 30.0% 80.0% 93.84% 112.44% 7.5
60 Pennsylvania State - Penn State Law 75.4% $83,475 160 3.72 2.6% 2.9% 38.0% 55.6% 80.42% 110.14% 7.1
72 University of Oregon 80.5% $97,999 157 3.48 2.8% 3.0% 60.0% 49.2% 84.38% 108.49% 8.5
81 American University 76.4% $159,723 160 3.51 3.0% 3.1% 36.0% 49.6% 74.69% 100.13% 7.4
96 University of South Carolina 75.6% $107,610 156 3.5 2.5% 2.9% 47.0% 53.9% 78.54% 107.83% 8.3
102 University of New Mexico 155 3.5 46.0% 70.18% 107.33%
116 West Virginia University 154 3.45 63.0% 73.53% 90.93%
119 University of Wyoming 153 3.4 57.0% 82.86% 100.61%
134 University of Akron 153 3.34 53.0% 82.17% 101.58%
141 University of Arkansas, Little Rock 151 3.41 50.0% 71.07% 91.96%
147 University of Detroit Mercy 152 3.24 54.0% 78.03% 85.72%
147 Roger Williams University 149 3.21 65.0% 65.67% 80.1%
8 University of Virginia 61.0% $165,911 170 3.9 4.4% 4.5% 14.0% 95.6% 95.45% 123.3% 7.1
22 University of Notre Dame 75.5% $128,653 167 3.75 3.5% 4.0% 20.0% 81.4% 88.6% 119.12% 7.3
35 William & Mary Law School 63.4% $91,816 163 3.6 3.4% 3.8% 42.0% 67.0% 91.74% 117.26% 6.9
43 Indiana University - Bloomington 68.8% $96,220 162 3.78 3.3% 3.5% 43.0% 63.2% 83.52% 116.85% 7.0
58 Baylor University 72.7% $152,209 160 3.63 2.5% 3.3% 34.0% 66.5% 92.91% 116.86% 6.6
60 University of Nevada—Las Vegas 70.0% $83,715 159 3.67 2.7% 2.5% 31.0% 71.3% 85.12% 108.18% 7.0
78 Loyola University—Chicago 67.7% $108,960 159 3.41 2.6% 3.1% 44.0% 57.8% 84.26% 115.14% 5.3
81 Brooklyn Law School 68.0% $110,832 158 3.44 2.7% 2.9% 49.0% 58.5% 83.18% 98.37% 9.1
98 University of Hawaii 66.7% $89,242 154 3.42 2.6% 2.5% 40.0% 61.6% 75.9% 89.7% 4.5
102 Marquette University 154 3.5 51.0% 81.22% 129.14%
116 Albany Law School Of Union University 154 3.4 51.0% 81.62% 91.04%
119 University of Dayton 152 3.48 36.0% 83.33% 107.02%
134 University of South Dakota 149 3.56 64.0% 80.0% 94.7%
141 University of the Pacific (Mcgeorge) 154 3.4 56.0% 76.47% 94.1%
147 University of the District of Columbia 150 3.09 33.0% 56.92% 51.27%
147 University of San Francisco 153 3.32 49.0% 49.58% 55.78%
9 University of California—Berkeley 69.5% $139,251 168 3.81 4.5% 4.5% 22.0% 93.5% 92.07% 125.72% 6.1
24 University of North Carolina 63.8% $92,731 163 3.68 3.5% 3.8% 22.0% 68.7% 91.26% 117.31% 7.3
35 University of California—Davis 57.0% $114,895 163 3.72 3.5% 3.5% 33.0% 71.5% 83.12% 120.64% 9.1
43 University of Utah 84.8% $76,344 161 3.77 3.0% 3.2% 33.0% 75.3% 89.41% 107.5% 4.4
58 University of Connecticut 67.1% $89,211 158 3.53 2.9% 3.0% 45.0% 69.5% 82.86% 108.01% 5.9
60 Pennsylvania State - Dickinson Law 60.3% $54,503 160 3.39 2.5% 2.8% 39.0% 59.2% 91.23% 104.72% 6.0
78 University of Denver 73.8% $160,006 159 3.55 2.8% 3.0% 51.0% 59.7% 79.84% 105.44% 6.5
81 University of Cincinnati 71.3% $166,163 158 3.65 2.4% 2.8% 51.0% 54.2% 80.99% 107.58% 6.3
98 University of Louisville 78.4% $96,920 155 3.63 2.2% 2.7% 49.0% 69.9% 86.11% 99.12% 9.0
102 Drake University 155 3.46 69.0% 87.5% 102.8%
119 Hofstra University 154 3.37 46.0% 82.94% 69.71%
124 University of Maine 156 3.51 46.0% 73.68% 100.48%
139 University of Idaho 153 3.24 67.0% 72.92% 94.18%
144 Loyola University—New Orleans 151 3.32 64.0% 73.65% 87.29%
147 Elon University 150 3.3 46.0% 78.64% 89.91%
147 South Texas College Of Law—Houston 152 3.17 46.0% 72.52% 99.03%
10 University of Michigan 73.5% $129,791 169 3.76 4.4% 4.5% 16.0% 93.0% 93.49% 123.59% 7.2
25 Arizona State University 68.1% $93,824 165 3.83 3.3% 3.2% 26.0% 79.1% 89.01% 116.88% 5.5
40 Ohio State University 70.7% $89,946 161 3.79 3.3% 3.5% 35.0% 86.3% 86.31% 108.7% 6.3
45 University of Washington 67.3% $108,725 162 3.68 3.3% 3.5% 35.0% 62.1% 85.35% 111.31% 5.8
60 Tulane University 70.8% $140,964 159 3.54 3.2% 3.4% 53.0% 55.6% 77.71% 99.23% 7.0
60 University of Missouri 70.2% $71,073 158 3.66 2.5% 2.9% 55.0% 64.6% 82.61% 108.88% 7.0
78 Georgia State University 73.0% $76,978 158 3.52 2.8% 2.7% 29.0% 56.3% 81.09% 131.84% 6.3
81 Drexel University 70.2% $72,407 156 3.56 2.4% 2.7% 43.0% 61.9% 88.81% 97.73% 6.1
98 University of Mississippi 69.0% $71,333 156 3.51 2.3% 2.8% 42.0% 49.4% 81.31% 96.67% 10.0
102 CUNY 154 3.45 35.0% 80.36% 89.88%
119 Duquesne University 154 3.41 57.0% 86.24% 108.58%
124 Mercer University 153 3.41 45.0% 86.05% 121.3%
139 Pace University 151 3.33 51.0% 85.41% 89.36%
144 University of Memphis 153 3.33 47.0% 73.56% 99.33%
147 Southern Illinois University—Carbondale 150 3.29 50.0% 66.67% 76.65%
10 Duke University 65.4% $153,276 169 3.8 4.2% 4.4% 22.0% 93.6% 95.48% 123.7% 5.2
25 University of Alabama 61.4% $64,271 164 3.94 3.3% 3.3% 36.0% 77.9% 89.47% 114.6% 5.8
46 University of Arizona 58.9% $67,014 163 3.56 3.2% 2.9% 28.0% 65.7% 81.82% 89.53% 4.5
60 University of Tennessee 70.3% $73,092 159 3.63 2.6% 3.0% 33.0% 55.1% 86.73% 106.28% 6.4
86 University of San Diego 71.5% $140,294 159 3.65 2.8% 2.9% 39.0% 49.6% 74.86% 109.44% 8.1
102 Catholic University Of America 156 3.4 42.0% 80.58% 108.23%
126 Santa Clara University 156 3.34 55.0% 67.77% 93.0%
144 Samford University 152 3.49 68.0% 82.71% 99.16%
147 Mississippi College 148 3.22 70.0% 59.32% 77.5%
147 Southern University 144 2.98 62.0% 57.42% 85.36%
147 Touro College 149 3.07 50.0% 77.88% 76.3%
12 Northwestern University 65.6% $154,844 169 3.85 4.2% 4.4% 19.0% 93.1% 95.83% 120.93% 4.5
27 George Washington University 68.1% $154,992 166 3.76 3.5% 3.7% 34.0% 64.1% 84.29% 116.81% 7.0
46 Pepperdine University 70.5% $143,901 162 3.68 2.7% 3.2% 28.0% 84.3% 83.71% 117.46% 6.5
67 Northeastern University 77.9% $79,454 162 3.65 2.6% 2.9% 36.0% 52.0% 84.98% 106.79% 8.4
87 University of Nebraska 77.9% $63,027 156 3.63 2.5% 2.8% 66.0% 65.0% 87.18% 107.74% 8.4
102 Syracuse University 155 3.53 39.0% 74.86% 102.59%
126 University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) 154 3.51 69.0% 83.21% 100.81%
147 John Marshall Law School 151 3.27 57.0% 67.1% 79.58%
147 Mitchell Hamline 152 3.24 58.0% 72.97% 86.98%
147 Southwestern Law School 153 3.25 47.0% 64.5% 81.45%
147 University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 149 3.27 56.0% 69.57% 77.05%
13 Cornell University 60.4% $150,089 168 3.86 4.3% 4.3% 19.0% 90.5% 88.66% 114.42% 5.0
27 University of Georgia 66.5% $75,568 165 3.78 3.3% 3.5% 19.0% 81.8% 92.82% 135.38% 7.7
48 University of Colorado—Boulder 74.6% $103,795 163 3.65 3.2% 3.2% 37.0% 67.0% 84.62% 114.32% 6.4
67 University of Oklahoma 63.8% $79,755 157 3.63 2.6% 3.0% 54.0% 57.0% 92.53% 111.37% 10.0
88 University of New Hampshire 80.6% $74,092 156 3.46 2.1% 2.7% 57.0% 66.0% 83.61% 120.59% 5.1
102 Texas Tech University 156 3.56 37.0% 82.22% 106.29%
126 Seattle University 155 3.39 60.0% 69.78% 94.38%
147 Vermont Law School 152 3.19 65.0% 66.1% 64.04%
147 New England Law | Boston 152 3.27 71.0% 65.75% 86.24%
147 St. Mary's University 151 3.2 58.0% 72.86% 90.09%
147 Western Michigan University (Cooley) 147 2.94 44.0% 49.47% 50.93%
14 University of California—Los Angeles 67.9% $125,167 169 3.79 4.1% 4.2% 23.0% 83.2% 91.17% 126.11% 5.9
29 Emory University 62.1% $128,635 166 3.8 3.6% 3.9% 32.0% 69.5% 80.07% 115.0% 7.2
48 Florida State University 74.6% $63,773 161 3.72 3.1% 3.0% 30.0% 60.3% 85.88% 122.51% 7.3
67 University of Pittsburgh 80.3% $104,255 159 3.51 2.7% 3.1% 42.0% 50.2% 85.83% 105.09% 5.3
88 Florida International University 74.0% $90,946 158 3.65 2.1% 2.4% 27.0% 47.1% 88.81% 133.69% 8.1
109 Louisiana State University 155 3.45 52.0% 84.39% 111.11%
129 Gonzaga University 153 3.43 59.0% 72.9% 99.83%
147 Willamette University 152 3.07 64.0% 77.01% 103.19%
147 North Carolina Central University 145 3.24 44.0% 62.39% 96.94%
147 St. Thomas University (Florida) 150 3.23 52.0% 63.64% 94.02%
147 Western New England University 148 3.27 60.0% 59.26% 80.62%
15 Georgetown University 62.2% $163,977 168 3.78 4.2% 4.3% 20.0% 82.6% 85.76% 120.37% 4.8
29 University of Iowa 74.4% $94,846 161 3.64 3.3% 3.6% 60.0% 70.7% 93.57% 117.17% 7.3
50 University of Maryland 61.4% $123,144 160 3.66 3.0% 3.0% 36.0% 68.4% 87.56% 111.69% 6.2
70 Seton Hall University 68.7% $128,806 158 3.55 2.5% 2.9% 46.0% 86.1% 90.71% 117.47% 7.6
88 Lewis And Clark College 75.9% $141,497 158 3.49 2.5% 3.0% 61.0% 52.2% 83.33% 101.8% 7.5
109 Washburn University 155 3.39 51.0% 83.33% 97.9%
129 Quinnipiac University 152 3.46 60.0% 77.78% 98.62%
147 Appalachian School of Law 147 3.17 45.0% 51.61% 62.18%
147 University of North Dakota 148 3.34 66.0% 67.59% 99.57%
147 Texas Southern University 148 3.17 30.0% 57.8% 72.05%
147 Western State College Of Law 150 3.14 43.0% 57.55% 81.52%
A rank of 147 means that the school is not ranked by U.S. News & World Report.
* The data in this table is user-reported and may be inaccurate.
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  • 4:04 jberg: @DevilishSkillfulBracke: no i don't lol. but damn Duke :(
  • 10:10 MeaslyDizzyMongrel: Anyone’s status date change just now for Fordham?
  • 10:53 BryonBNM: Syracuse Rejected for Fall 2021 term, but advised to reapply for early decision for next term. Email received this morning.
  • 10:54 PiquantKnownFoxhound: @BryonBNM: in person or hybrid?
  • 11:13 RelievedWildMeerkat: @MeaslyDizzyMongrel: mine did!
  • 11:15 MeaslyDizzyMongrel: @RelievedWildMeerkat: are you on PWL? or said yes to part-time?
  • 11:24 SkoBuffsV: anyone got the link for the waitlist discord?
  • 11:29 PiquantKnownFoxhound: Anyone hear from UNH? I'm still under review there but not optimistic at this point.
  • 11:36 harrystylesismyking: https://discord.gg/nwJZ3yy6
  • 11:36 harrystylesismyking: @SkoBuffsV: ^^
  • 11:39 RelievedWildMeerkat: @MeaslyDizzyMongrel: no to both! Wbu?
  • 11:57 MeaslyDizzyMongrel: @RelievedWildMeerkat: on the regular one also/ said yes to part-time. Trying to figure out if there’s a pattern
  • 12:44 bananasplitsundae: is today a gulc update day?
  • 12:52 SkoBuffsV: @harrystylesismyking: thanks!
  • 12:53 SkoBuffsV: I hope today is GULC update day but they said end of july in their email right?
  • 13:03 ImpossiblePetitePoodle: Anyone else still chilling on HLS waitlist ?
  • 13:04 SOS: did anyone get accepted off of UNC waitlist? Apparently they were supposed to make decisions this week so I am very curious
  • 14:19 LegallyNotBlonde: Anyone have suffolk waitlist info? email said it would be yesterday and yet nothing
  • 14:50 SkoBuffsV: I heard they might be over enrolled but I could be wrong!
  • 15:57 BryonBNM: @PiquantKnownFoxhound: hybrid
  • 15:58 EnchantingAmusingFrog: Anyone heard from Georgia state waitlist?
  • 2:11 Helonwheels39: Anyone heard from Stetson?
  • 12:29 GatorAlum1996: Hey @helonwheels39 can I ask if you’re waiting on Syracuse?
  • 12:38 anjn79: Anyone heard anything about the UMD waitlist?
  • 17:49 BizarrePlacidSwan: I got. A 168 on the lsat and a 2.5 gpa. Ive been out of school since 2014. Where can i get in?
  • 19:08 JakeG: @BizarrePlacidSwan: https://www.lawschooldata.org/search/ZPVgz
  • 19:09 JakeG: You can modify search parameters, thats for 166-169 2.2-2.8 for last cycle
  • 19:09 JakeG: You should get some T50 acceptances.
  • 19:10 JakeG: T20 is probably not going to happen, but if you have a specific school you're passionate about and you're over the LSAT median, go for it.
  • 19:10 JakeG: Just keep in mind medians are going to be +1 to +3 next cycle.
  • 19:29 BigCapper69: Very curious to see how the top 40-50 schools are affected median wise. Scares me to death.
  • 21:51 Schmo: I am too, but I haven't even gotten an official LSAT, yet. So, I probably shouldn't bother myself with that.
  • 21:52 Schmo: I've got a 4.03 and am PTing around 167-172, so I hope I'm good for T14's this next cycle
  • 21:53 Schmo: Even though my experiencing is severely lacking T_T
  • 21:54 Schmo: *experience
  • 14:03 JinxCatmilton: @poetatarms congrats!!!! May I ask when you found out?
  • 18:06 jberg: how much do softs matter?
  • 18:06 jberg: i'm reapplying and raised my LSAT from 164 to 174, but I didn't do anything crazy impressive in the meantime
  • 18:36 JakeG: @jberg 164 to 174 was the best possible use of your time. Softs matter to the extent that your application feel
  • 18:36 JakeG: should feel "full" with a clear narrative.
  • 18:36 JakeG: As long as you have some work experience (anything at all!) with some campus involvement, your resume will do its job.
  • 18:38 JakeG: And if you're reapplying to the same schools, you probably want to shake things up a bit. Modify your resume unless its already perfect, rewrite your PS, maybe add a LOR if possible, and consider doing different optionals where possible.
  • 22:33 jaw79728: Does anyone expect WL movement at this point in the summer? Haven't heard anything from USD or Loyola Chicago...
  • 1:00 gnostictoolie: yeah I'm considering shifting my PS over to my diversity statement
  • 1:00 gnostictoolie: and writing a new PS from scratch
  • 1:00 gnostictoolie: (the major of my PS over that is)
  • 1:32 jberg: @JakeG: thank you so much for the advice! I'm definitely going to rework my PS and resume. I'm hoping this cycle will be slightly less competitive, but the influx of super high scorers from last cycle make me somewhat self-conscious that softs can be a deciding factor
  • 1:33 jberg: Also if I'm applying to new schools such as UT, Duke, Vandy, etc. can I send my original PS since they didn't see it the first cycle or is that still a bad idea?
  • 3:47 jberg: does anyone know when the new cycle will open on LSAC?
  • 5:27 HighfalutinSavoryRussel: Hofstra
  • 6:49 JakeG: @jberg yeah send whichever version of your PS is best to any new schools you're applying to.
  • 9:49 PiquantKnownFoxhound: @BryonBNM: Did you hear anything from Dayton or MH? I haven't heard a single peep out of either.
  • 10:17 SkoBuffsV: is this the week we hear from a lot of schools do we think? I just want to knowwwwww already
  • 10:28 GutturalWiryLoon: I just want to get off the waitlist at UNM so I can know if I need to move across the country or not
  • 10:28 JinxCatmilton: UT needs to put me out of my misery
  • 10:28 JinxCatmilton: so i feel ya
  • 10:31 SkoBuffsV: honestly just reject me so I can move on
  • 10:31 SkoBuffsV: I feel so stuck
  • 11:20 JinxCatmilton: Trust me, I understand
  • 11:20 JinxCatmilton: Obsessing over this sucks
  • 11:50 alegal: do we think i will ever get unwaitlisted at nyu hahah
  • 13:07 Baconpants: @alegal: probably not
  • 13:07 Baconpants: But you got into a lot of places! Congrats!
  • 15:08 YourFavoriteHansonBrother: anybody hearing anything from SLS?
  • 15:26 pilkyboids: Sorry tha tthis is an annoying question, but should I go ed at minnesota or is that a long shot
  • 15:32 LearnedYouthfulOcelot: anybody hearing anthing from CLS?
  • 16:19 SickMinorTiger: 2 date changes at Fordham in the last few days
  • 16:19 SickMinorTiger: Interesting
  • 16:27 MeaslyDizzyMongrel: Same^^
  • 16:40 Falparsi: @LearnedYouthfulOcelot: nothing, but for those still on reserve somehow, there's supposed to be an update mid-July.
  • 16:48 BrightSkillfulPorcupine: What could the Fordham date changes mean?
  • 16:57 SingerBecomesLawyer: Has anyone heard from UCLA about the waitlist? The initial email said they hoped to get back to us in mid-June :(
  • 17:04 HalfUnknownSnail: @pilkyboids: I think you have a strong shot at MN even without goign ED
  • 17:05 HalfUnknownSnail: 166 /3.48, First gen, paralegal experience, and URM Hispanic/Latinx makes you a solid applicant at the U without needing to waste your ED credit
  • 17:05 HalfUnknownSnail: It would also get you in a bind financially .. I say applying broadly to t20-t25
  • 17:05 HalfUnknownSnail: you will get some strong offers in that groupo
  • 17:14 pilkyboids: @HalfUnknownSnail: You rock, thanks so much for your insight You have a super strong profile too, congratulations on Northwestern! That's bigtime.
  • 17:54 HalfUnknownSnail: @pilkyboids: Thank you! Best of luck on your cycle!
  • 20:14 jberg: why does powerscore say that Northwestern gives a boost with ED? NU has a merit based scholarship attached and I feel like that would hurt people's chances
  • 0:10 BryonBNM: @PiquantKnownFoxhound: nothing yet, but GGU accepted today. I’d rather Dayton or MH
  • 9:37 PiquantKnownFoxhound: @BryonBNM: congrats!!! That's awesome. I'm thinking I might have to reapply next year. I didn't even get a tracker for Dayton but they confirmed via email that they had my app under review.
  • 10:36 CaractacusPotts: Any UVA WL news?
  • 11:05 ImminentEatableBoar: @ScreechingQuaintPanther did you just receive the R from UNC?
  • 11:09 BryonBNM: @PiquantKnownFoxhound: Dayton did mention they would be final with all decisions by the 22nd. Keep fingers crossed!!!!
  • 12:15 YourFavoriteHansonBrother: will SLS have any movement at all
  • 13:02 SOS: any news on UNC waitlist? Was anyone accepted off of it or rejected from it?
  • 13:12 B6767: @YourFavoriteHansonBrother: I'm assuming no
  • 13:33 AbundantSecretiveSpaniel: Whenever I've called SLS to ask about WL, they just say "spots may open up later over the summer"
  • 13:34 AbundantSecretiveSpaniel: I think they're full, but holding on to the WL in case someone defers or smth
  • 13:34 AbundantSecretiveSpaniel: wouldn't expect more than 1-2 admits, if any
  • 14:39 GatorAlum1996: Is anyone still waiting on Syracuse? Applied for residential program and went UR 7/1
  • 14:58 FumblingCurvyCichlid: I believe someone posted earlier about Syracuse making final decisions by 7/23
  • 15:57 PinkPantsuit: has anyone heard back from northeastern waitlist yet?
  • 16:30 SilentGiantParrot: Yes there was one earlier last 2 days @pinkpantsuit
  • 4:35 jberg: when are medians going to be updated?
  • 8:53 MistyPushyPossum: i've been committed elsewhere for months now but just rejected from vanderbilt! they exist!
  • 9:12 MeaslyDizzyMongrel: Just now @misty?
  • 9:14 MistyPushyPossum: yes, about 30 mins ago @measly
  • 9:19 MeaslyDizzyMongrel: Ohh. Congrats on your other school!
  • 9:29 MistyPushyPossum: thanks!\
  • 10:11 PiquantKnownFoxhound: @BryonBNM: Sorry to hear about Dayton. Did they send an email? Apparently the tracker is broken, I don't even have a login/pass. Not sure how they notify.
  • 10:38 LatinaElleWoods: do we think UT will send out any decisions today?
  • 10:39 FamiliarAnimatedQuail: Anyone hear anything about CLS? Is there supposed to be a July update?
  • 10:41 Falparsi: the last reserve letter says that there would be a mid-july update. no word yet.
  • 10:44 FamiliarAnimatedQuail: hmmm. Ok. I saw that in the letter just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything. 🤞
  • 10:44 FamiliarAnimatedQuail: I keep spamming them with LOCI :)
  • 12:29 CarefulFierceMalamute: anyone hear from umd
  • 13:53 beep: If your app is on hold does it typically indicate "hold" on status checker or are people just assuming they're on hold bc they have gone months without hearing anything?
  • 14:02 BryonBNM: @PiquantKnownFoxhound: Thanks. Yeah, they sent email on 7/19. It went to my junk mail!
  • 14:45 Tortally-Radical: Apparently there has been SLS waitlist movement, it just hasn’t been self reported
  • 14:45 Tortally-Radical: If anyone cares to know :)
  • 14:54 LearnedYouthfulOcelot: What about CLS? Its email said a next round of notices by mid July but heard nothing so far.
  • 15:40 PiquantKnownFoxhound: @BryonBNM: oh no! I've just checked mine to be sure I didn't miss something. I hate not having a status tracker. lol
  • 16:54 jberg: not sure if anyone is waitlisted at Hastings, Santa Clara or Wisconsin but I just withdrew and decided to reapply after my LSAT improvement so I'm hoping you guys see some movement
  • 19:23 AbundantSecretiveSpaniel: @Tortally-Radical: do you know how many or when
  • 19:47 candles123: @Tortally-Radical: where did you see that information?
  • 22:40 Tortally-Radical: Email. No specific info shared.
  • 0:23 candles123: @Tortally-Radical: as in someone SLS staff emailed you saying that? would appreciate the detail, thanks!
  • 0:24 candles123: @Tortally-Radical: someone from SLS*
  • 10:47 gnostictoolie: ^same
  • 11:59 DevilishSkillfulBracke: Anyone hear anything from UNC WL?
  • 16:54 LatinaElleWoods: Anyone heard from UT?
  • 22:16 Tortally-Radical: From SLS
  • 11:15 YourFavoriteHansonBrother: @Tortally-Radical: so SLS said over email that they had accepted off WL ?
  • 11:16 YourFavoriteHansonBrother: if so, in what context did they tell you this
  • 12:58 Tortally-Radical: Trying not to expose myself here lads and ladies.
  • 13:01 Tortally-Radical: But also trying to assist my fellow applicants :)
  • 13:03 aftermaths: My friend got a call from Emory (they’re on the Reg waitlist) asking for their law school plans. Is that a feeler?
  • 13:07 lordestan134: I got a call too
  • 13:52 Vbucks-Over-Law: Are y’all reverse splitters?
  • 15:07 lordestan134: Yes but only slightly
  • 16:42 LatinaElleWoods: UT today? 🤧
  • 16:49 PiquantKnownFoxhound: Dayton updates??? 🤷🏼‍♀️
  • 18:28 its-a-flying-squirrel: so dudes I withdrew from a school but they have thus far ignored my email withdrawing and I'm still getting emails from the law school. what do?
  • 18:29 its-a-flying-squirrel: should i just leave it alone lol
  • 18:29 its-a-flying-squirrel: they'll figure it out...right?
  • 18:31 its-a-flying-squirrel: has anyone ever withdrawn only to be given a counter offer later? theres no way right
  • 16:36 hemicuda90: anyone know if fiu still has room?
  • 23:23 FamiliarAnimatedQuail: Any word from CLS or did they just blow off their mid July update
  • 11:41 bchiki32: I literally never heard from CLS
  • 11:41 bchiki32: it's been 8 months LOL
  • 11:52 LatinaElleWoods: @bchiki32: did you call them? I’ve heard that their emails go to spam
  • 11:54 dongately: just got an emory feeler via email after i withdrew
  • 12:31 YourFavoriteHansonBrother: is it bad to call a school to ask about WL updates?
  • 12:38 LatinaElleWoods: have you asked before?
  • 13:07 SOS: I just called UNC and someone actually picked up! They said that the waitlist movement is unlikely. One or two people might get accepted off of the waitlist but for right now they are still overenrolled. The person also said that these acceptances would happen if someone were to drop out or decide not to enroll.
  • 13:57 Vbucks-Over-Law: @dongately: what did they say? Was it a call?
  • 13:57 Vbucks-Over-Law: Nvm email
  • 19:53 LivelyNonchalantRat: Anyone heard from Pace?
  • 22:04 lawyerfairy: anyone heard from LMU?
  • 3:47 FunctionalEconomicAkita: I have a 3.6 and a 166 from a t-5 undergrad, will GULC at all be possible if I apply ED?
  • 11:28 WhaleBarnacle: just heard from CLS
  • 11:29 Tortally-Radical: Yeeted from CLS
  • 12:17 Falparsi: sorry to hear that whalebarnacle/Tortally-Radical. At least you're out of reserve hell. At the moment, I'm still stuck...
  • 12:55 Pink713: @FunctionalEconomicAkita: For the most part, schools don’t car what rank your undergrad was. Some do, but most don’t. They will take into consideration what your major was, if it was more difficult. However, you are mainly stuck as a statistic. Check out the graphs and data from the past couple of years to see where you fall. Even if you are in range, it’s never a guarantee with high rank schools. I think you might have a shot, so just shoot it!
  • 13:23 lawschoolpls: hi! Has anyone heard back from UCI WL?
  • 14:06 CEOoftheUCIwaitlist: @lawschoolpls: nope.
  • 14:33 FeignedSloppyDugong: do military apps get a bump at t14 or not really
  • 14:33 FeignedSloppyDugong: seems like everyone is a stat more or less?
  • 14:50 lawschoolpls: @CEOoftheUCIwaitlist: love the user name lmfao
  • 14:50 LivelyNonchalantRat: Is August too late to hear for the WL? Should we be hearing back before August?
  • 14:52 lawschoolpls: do you think calling the school and asking about WL movement is a good or bad idea?
  • 15:11 nontradwelltred: i have a theory that WL movement depends entirely on the T20 schools. Once they move, it "trickles" down. I'm on 4 WLs for 2-4 mos. 1 told me yesterday that they will make WL decisions Mid-August!!
  • 15:37 TheBlackElleWoods10: Bama said their last decisions would be August 13th....3 days before classes start & after orientation.
  • 16:01 LatinaElleWoods: Any news on UT?
  • 16:01 LatinaElleWoods: I’m dying
  • 16:13 Falparsi: is anyone else still on cls reserve? i know an update came out today. just curious...
  • 17:35 LivelyNonchalantRat: I have a meeting with admissions tmr. Is it appropriate to ask the timeline of when I should expect to hear back for waitlist
  • 17:39 SilentGiantParrot: worst they say is nothing :)
  • 17:44 LivelyNonchalantRat: Right - It's a Q&A session. Trying to think of other questions to ask. Any advice?
  • 17:48 nirvana: one thing you can do is ask a question that ties into your personal activities/interests
  • 17:48 nirvana: for example do you ride a bike to class normally? you can ask how students normally get around to class because you like to ride your bike
  • 18:02 LivelyNonchalantRat: Good idea! There was also an accepted students day event today. Wonder if that would give them a better idea too
  • 18:33 nhalws: How does over enrollment play into the following cycle, if at all?
  • 20:59 AxiomaticPuzzledDragonfly: it will
  • 20:59 AxiomaticPuzzledDragonfly: less spots
  • 21:00 AxiomaticPuzzledDragonfly: there will be a lot of deferrals that will take spots
  • 21:03 nhalws: *sigh*
  • 11:11 MurkyPricklyAvocet: how often are you reaching out/reiterating interest to the schools you are waitlisted at? is every 2 weeks aggressive?
  • 15:03 LatinaElleWoods: do we think UT will send out decisions today
  • 19:15 Falparsi: i saw there was a set of reserve rejections for CLS yesterday. Still haven't gotten an email from them since the second wave. anyone know if there's something to be read from this?
  • 14:03 candles123: any indication or updates from SLS this week?
  • 14:07 YourFavoriteHansonBrother: @cad
  • 14:07 YourFavoriteHansonBrother: @candles123: i wish
  • 15:34 KindlyOrganicPig: Has anyone heard back from UC Irvine waitlist
  • 17:21 B6767: @candles123: no 😞
  • 18:35 AbundantSecretiveSpaniel: what are the chances anyone gets off SLS now? Given that move-in is on the 23rd...
  • 11:45 GutturalWiryLoon: I literally have no hope for getting off the waitlist at unm given that they won’t answer/return my call
  • 12:10 dontdreamitbeit: @GutturalWiryLoon: I am on the same boat! How can I PM you?
  • 12:18 GutturalWiryLoon: Not sure how to on here
  • 12:56 dontdreamitbeit: @GutturalWiryLoon: my Twitter is @brandonvirtue if you want to PM!
  • 14:01 BittenStickyTurtle: @KindlyOrganicPig: Nope :(
  • 16:01 Law101: was there a UVA wave
  • 16:03 Law101: have not heard from them in a while
  • 17:32 Zoomzoom: I am envisioning an excel file that has the date that each school in the top 100 will begin to accept applications, so I can streamline when I need certain essays complete by. Does anything come to mind for anyone?
  • 17:32 Zoomzoom: for 2021-2022 apps, ^
  • 18:22 TheSplitter: I really feel like they should let all waitlists have a decision by the end of july, to give someone a decision <2 weeks away from the start of class really is criminal
  • 10:54 xenoyay114: .
  • 17:45 HalfUnknownSnail: Just wanted to say Peace out LSData. Just withdrew from all my other programs and finalized my profile. To those of you who are waiting for next year.. find moments of joy this year.. for those of you ending your cycle.. Hoping it has turned out in a way that brings you joy.
  • 17:45 HalfUnknownSnail: Peace.