JournoLawyer's profile - Class of 2024

Stats: 162 / 3.77 / T4

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Rank	2020-2021	Result	App type	Schol...
76	American University	Accepted	Unknown
4	Columbia University	Pending	Unknown
24	Emory University	Pending	Unknown
23	George Washington Un...	Pending	Unknown
14	Georgetown University	Waitlisted	RDregular decision
62	Loyola Marymount Uni...	Accepted	Unknown
6	New York University	Pending	RDregular decision
15	UCLos Angeles	Rejected	Unknown
4	UChicago	Pending	RDregular decision
46	UColorado—Boulder	Accepted	RDregular decision
74	UDenver	Accepted	Unknown
27	UNorth Carolina	Pending	Unknown
42	UWashington	Waitlisted	RDregular decision
17	Washington Universit...	Pending	Unknown
1	Yale University	Rejected	RDregular decision
53	Yeshiva University (...	Accepted	Unknown	$75,000

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11:25 SneakySeahorse: love that
11:25 nota999: Mine is narrative-ish I guess? It's kinda like a summary of what I did after deciding I didn't want to do foreign policy, how I was considering seminary, and how similar desires to what made me want to go to seminary now are driving me to law school instead.
11:25 K-justwaiting: did you guys write special paragraphs for each schools?
11:25 GigiChula: I totally just killed the fact that I was URM and I could bring diversity into the field
11:25 GigiChula: **milked not killed
11:25 alegal: my narrative was that I never had a POC teacher and went back to my school district and got POC hired
11:26 CEOofShotShooting: LOL I didn't talk about trauma. I talked about how hard the submarine force was I'd be a lawyer advocate for veterans rights
11:26 K-justwaiting: I honestly didn't have much space. and I had the same @nota999
11:26 brendog: yeah @k-justwaiting cut and paste city name type stuff
11:26 IcicleBumpkin: @K-justwaiting: I did not. no school specific for anything
11:26 odovek: mine was essentially my decision making process leaving my job for law school
11:26 DevilishSkillfulBracke: mines about my years facing sexua harassment as a waitress/bartender and why that drove me to get my masters in HR and why that drove me to apply to law school to be an employment lawyer
11:26 SneakySeahorse: @K-justwaiting I did some times not forevery school
11:26 DevilishSkillfulBracke: every day i hate my essay more and more
11:26 CEOofShotShooting: Uci was my only why X and that's because they told me too lol
11:26 IcicleBumpkin: literally exact same essay for every school- kept school spec for suppl;ementary essays
11:26 SneakySeahorse: @Devil thats so good!
11:26 K-justwaiting: I know that was killer essay devilish
11:26 GigiChula: @DevilishSkillfulBracke: YAAS I LOVE THAT
11:26 MagnificentBrightHare: I used the same PS for all my schools cuz I was pretty selective about my schools and it was applicable - I talked about what I learned and how my view of the legal field changed as I went through my internship with the SAO, volunteering, etc
11:26 hellohello: Devilish I think that sounds amazing!
11:26 K-justwaiting: I mean seems like alot of narrative
11:26 ImAliveButImDead: guys i talked about my vagina in my essay, i think you guys are good
11:27 CEOofShotShooting: Hahahah
11:27 SneakySeahorse: hahahahahah
11:27 DevilishSkillfulBracke: wow! jeez! thanks guys!! you're making me feel so much better
11:27 alegal: i know a person who wrote an open letter from a traumatic accident
11:27 DevilishSkillfulBracke: is narrative bad?
11:27 brendog: word up
11:27 alegal: it was amazing i cried
11:27 GigiChula: Who knows if PS even matters
11:27 nota999: I feel like I could have done mine in a different style. It was a bit on the analytic side instead of the narrative side. But, what's done is done and since I won't be reapplying next cycle there's no use worrying about what I could have done differently on it.
11:27 DevilishSkillfulBracke: and bringing up your vagina is such a win win
11:27 K-justwaiting: yeah I talked alot about how I love studying the law in general and then talked about and internship experience with policymakers/politicans
11:27 hellohello: PS defs does matter haha
11:27 SneakySeahorse: mine was a lil analytic too nota
11:27 GigiChula: I think narrative is good
11:27 alegal: the only way i got in was from my PS i have no softs
11:27 CEOofShotShooting: My buddy got into like 7 top tens and his letter had nothing to do with law school
11:27 K-justwaiting: and then im a URM so I talked about my diversity ofc
11:27 FrankieTheTankie: @ImAliveButImDead: I literally submitted a resume to Harvard reflecting that I once saw Nic Cage puke tequila everywhere, I fear nothing as I walk through this valley of death lol
11:27 ImAliveButImDead: i literally said "my vagina" lmfaooooooo
11:27 IcicleBumpkin: Narrative is great. One of the best bits from the Miriam and Kristi podcast is their note not to get bogged down on a single anecdote/story. Narrative is good-- just keep it moving
11:27 ImAliveButImDead: HAHAHA
11:28 CEOofShotShooting: I complimented my wife more than me in mine
11:28 DevilishSkillfulBracke: are there any stats/studies on how much PS matters?
11:28 GigiChula: I hope y’all are right. Idk. This cycle is weird.
11:28 brendog: oh noooooo i attached the wrong thing and sent harvard my regular show fanfic draft (214 pgs)
11:28 GigiChula: Aww @ceo that’s adorable
11:28 OnerousFairSlug: HAHAH @brendog
11:28 nota999: I felt like mine had to be a bit more analytic since I had a feeling the biggest question mark adcomms would have about my app was "He just recently left a different grad program. How do we know he won't do the same with us?"
11:28 nota999: So I wanted to draw that line pretty directly.
11:28 K-justwaiting: not sure @devillish but it mean ive seen people be splitters and then swear up and down their PS is what helped them and thats what adcoms say too
11:28 JAlfredPrufrock: @brendog: auto admit
11:28 CEOofShotShooting: Yeah I can't wait for our school to email me and be like hey we kind of want your wife to apply but we'll pass on you
11:28 JAlfredPrufrock: full ride
11:28 brendog: lol
11:28 K-justwaiting: like if your numbers aren't great your PS may save you
11:28 GigiChula: @nota999: I think that’s good tho. You’re addressing questions they’ll most likely have
11:29 alegal: i think my cycle is proof lmao
11:29 DevilishSkillfulBracke: word
11:29 ImAliveButImDead: i put on my resume that i have an IMDb page cause I was in a movie once
11:29 ImAliveButImDead: do you think Yale will let me in now?
11:29 K-justwaiting: geeked LMAOOO
11:29 brendog: that's pretty cool
11:29 GigiChula: What about letters of rec?
11:29 RickshawLover: Notre Dame vs BU vs USC career outcomes
11:29 nota999: I still feel like I probably should have written an addendum just straight up answering that question rather than a PS which heavily suggests the answer, but hey hindsight is 20/20
11:29 FrankieTheTankie: @ImAliveButImDead: hey, they said be memorable
11:29 K-justwaiting: you know idk about letters of rec? because of course the recs will be good ones? no one will talk bad about you
11:29 RickshawLover: anyone have a take?
11:30 IcicleBumpkin: @nota999: seems like you did just fine with your strategy
11:30 hellohello: @GigiChula: 100% it matters
11:30 IcicleBumpkin: :)
11:30 brendog: i never even saw my LoRs. did everyone else waive rights?
11:30 ImAliveButImDead: @FrankieTheTankie: IMDb + Vagina = perfect application even Spivey couldn't see
11:30 K-justwaiting: not sure rickshaw! def ask reddit to
11:30 K-justwaiting: *too
11:30 odovek: @RickshawLover: I feel pretty similar but ND being more portable
11:30 DevilishSkillfulBracke: Yeah Im also curious, about LOFR
11:30 DevilishSkillfulBracke: LOR*
11:30 CEOofShotShooting: All of my recommenders sent me the letters before they submitted them
11:30 LegallyNotBlonde: @FrankieTheTankie: not true, there are some shitty LORs ive seen
11:30 seaturtledog: yeah i waived rights i thought you had to lololol
11:30 DevilishSkillfulBracke: most schools require two and theres options for more, does more make a diff?
11:30 nota999: @IcicleBumpkin: Oh for sure, not complaining about my outcome! I just think that I probably could have done it a bit better is all lol.
11:30 odovek: so USC best for west coast, BU best for east coast and ND if youre not sure where you want to be
11:30 hellohello: It does happen in some cases there are bad ones
11:30 brendog: I think mine carried serious weight at BU cos it was from a BU prof who is like, so tenured it's not even funny
11:30 LegallyNotBlonde: yea there have for sure been shitty recs
11:30 GigiChula: Well thank god. I have letters from my boss who promoted me and my professor who is a practicing attorney
11:30 DevilishSkillfulBracke: wouldnt a prof. jjust say no instead of writing a bad one?
11:31 Lovesplants2018: Hi everyone
11:31 K-justwaiting: right. I wonder how much their status matters as well
11:31 LegallyNotBlonde: "bad" can just mean not personal
11:31 IcicleBumpkin: @nota999: ya I got you. just some positive reinforcement for you
11:31 Lovesplants2018: What are the chances of Berk this evening
11:31 DevilishSkillfulBracke: ohh gotcha
11:31 K-justwaiting: I would hope so @devlilish
11:31 nota999: @IcicleBumpkin: <3
11:31 FrankieTheTankie: @DevilishSkillfulBracke: I mean as a petty bitch, if I were a prof, I would absolutely agree to write shitty recs for certain kids
11:31 LiquidSolid: @RickshawLover: USC and BU send more to BigLaw but ND sends more to Fed Clerkships
11:31 LiquidSolid: all in all it balances out, maybe ND has an edge
11:31 FrankieTheTankie: Not at random, just the ones who really deserved it lol
11:31 brendog: lol i asked an old boss for one and she wrote like half a paragraph like "he is a very nice boy". so i asked my coworker/mentor instead lol
11:31 hellohello: @DevilishSkillfulBracke: my dad had a prof write him a terrible one years and years ago. It happens. Some people are jerks
11:31 SneakySeahorse: @FrankieTheTankie: do you know if Loyola negotiates?
11:32 nota999: I think my GULC application was helped a lot by having an alum interview. I don't know if I would have done as well in a group one. I can have trouble making my voice heard in large groups of people, especially if they're all trying to stand out.
11:32 GigiChula: My boss majored in English so it was amazinggg
11:32 DevilishSkillfulBracke: wow thats so shitty
11:32 brendog: yuck group interviews. i did one for something unimportant last year and it was awful
11:32 FrankieTheTankie: I don't! They are not known for being extremely forthcoming with the monies (but not totally stingy), but why not ask?
11:33 SneakySeahorse: true true
11:33 K-justwaiting: yeah group interviews seem like hell
11:33 pilkyboids: my school list for the fall is currently at 33...yikes
11:33 SneakySeahorse: so wait, should i send them my negotiation letter rigt away, or should i send an email asking if they will
11:33 GigiChula: How do y’all afford to apply to so many schools
11:33 CEOofShotShooting: That letter is the same thing
11:34 CEOofShotShooting: Just send one.
11:34 DevilishSkillfulBracke: group interview seems the worst
11:34 MagnificentBrightHare: credit card debt @Gigi
11:34 IcicleBumpkin: @nota999: I didn't like the GULC group for the opposite reason. I've always been loud, and getting quiter is my learning edge. I was concerned I would be too "big" in that setting
11:34 DevilishSkillfulBracke: CREDIT CARDS
11:34 hellohello: Fee waivers
11:34 FrankieTheTankie: I personally wonder what negotiations will be like this weird hell cycle where school are drowning in applicants; if anything, I'm betting the 25-50 schools go on a spending spree to raise their medians, while the top batch sit on their cash this year and reap profits nonetheless
11:34 ImAliveButImDead: @GigiChula: saved my stimmy checks
11:34 brendog: yeah waivers are half the battle but STILL its like 50 bucks
11:34 GigiChula: I literally only applied to four because I couldn’t see myself going anywhere else nor could I justifying spending so much
11:34 GigiChula: Damn report fees.
11:34 IcicleBumpkin: I appreciated Dean Andy's actually calling on people for that reason.
11:34 MagnificentBrightHare: I loved the group interview for GULC it felt comfortable to me
11:34 nota999: @GigiChula: Seriously. Like, if I had known how competitive the cycle would be I might have sent out a couple more. But the folks who applied to like 30 schools makes my wallet hurt in sympathy.
11:34 pilkyboids: @GigiChula: I'll definitely pare down my list,but the stories of people getting completely sut out scare me and I don't have a good understanding of my possibilities yet
11:35 ItsJustaWaitingGame10: I also thought the GULC interview was great
11:35 pilkyboids: *shut out
11:35 SneakySeahorse: my biggest regret is not applying for fee waivers
11:35 K-justwaiting: same Gigi all of the extra places I applied to were because of fee waivers
11:35 K-justwaiting: same
11:35 ItsJustaWaitingGame10: Was it really not like this in the past? Is this Cycle that crazy? It feels like hell
11:35 K-justwaiting: and another regret not communicating with adcomms as much
11:35 SneakySeahorse: SAME
11:35 MagnificentBrightHare: my undergrad advisor told me he would get me fee waivers and then didn't sooooo
11:35 MagnificentBrightHare: I bit the bullet
11:35 GigiChula: Yeah I suppose so. Idk I’m hoping for the best. I had a bunch of free waivers too but again didn’t wanna apply to schools where I know I’d never want to relocate to
11:35 nota999: @ItsJustaWaitingGame10: This cycle is definitely widely regarded as one of if not the most difficult cycle in recent years.
11:35 brendog: what does one communicate to adcomms?
11:35 K-justwaiting: like I should have been calling them and chatting them adcooms up so they know who I am
11:35 pilkyboids: i want to reach out to adcomms but idk what to say
11:36 GigiChula: You could just email admissions and ask for one and they usually give it to you
11:36 K-justwaiting: thinking of different questions not on the website
11:36 K-justwaiting: but also not something you could ask a student either
11:36 LSDataAddict: HI, by ASU my dates are surrounded by decisions for a while already and I am the only one without a decision, the other people without a decision wernt last seen recently. What should I do?
11:36 K-justwaiting: maybe asking about the success of internal programs? of they offer alot of routes in your edu (clinical, practicums) how to take advantage of that?
11:37 SneakySeahorse: I applied to one school that ONLY mails your decision wtf this is the modern era come ON
11:37 K-justwaiting: lol sorry for the typos again
11:37 K-justwaiting: NOT SNAIL MAIL lmaooo yikesssss
11:37 SneakySeahorse: I KNOW
11:37 SneakySeahorse: "to protect the confidentiality of the student"
11:37 SneakySeahorse: literally broadcast that shit I Do not care I just wanna know
11:38 GigiChula: What school is that??
11:38 SneakySeahorse: Marquette
11:38 nota999: "If you wanted to post my decision in a youtube video where you just read my name, feel free. Just give me a decision."
11:38 GigiChula: Hahah
11:38 SneakySeahorse: ^literally me
11:38 koalalovingpisces: snail mail is literally so wasteful too. The law profession already uses so much paper :( sad
11:38 GigiChula: Again. Tell me why it takes so long?? I think they do it to torture us on purpose
11:39 SneakySeahorse: everyone on reddit saying loyola doesn't negotiate has me all sketched out now
11:39 stemtolawguyKJD: when does ut send out interview invites?
11:39 brendog: i believe it was columbia who emails acceptances but strictly snail mails Rs
11:39 brendog: which is absurd
11:39 SneakySeahorse: that's so shitty :(
11:39 sad-cauliflower: hmm i got my columbia R in a email
11:39 K-justwaiting: ooo some UVA acceptances coming in
11:39 TheOther51: I read Stanford does Rs and WLs by snail mail. Can anyone verify?
11:40 brendog: i was just about to say i may be wrong lol
11:40 pilkyboids: does anyone remember how far in advance they asked for letters of rec?
11:40 brendog: i saw it on some spreadsheet that i'm not looking at now
11:40 sad-cauliflower: gotcha lol
11:40 nota999: @pilkyboids: I reached out to my folks in the summer.
11:40 koalalovingpisces: @TheOther51: its by email this year
11:40 nota999: Especially for professors, I wouldn't ask until, like, after whatever exam period is at your school because they'll likely be busy.
11:40 brendog: @pilkyboids: i asked toooooo late lmao. like, oct and nov 2020 respectively
11:40 DevilishSkillfulBracke: I reached out in September- Got them by September, October and November
11:40 TheOther51: thank god that would be terrible
11:41 plzletmebecomealawyer: @pilkyboids: I asked in November and applied in January. This might be too late, I just had a pretty close relationship with the people I asked
11:41 RuralSmoggyMastiff: @pilkyboids: I asked when I first graduated two years ago, but most of the professors I asked wanted to wait until my cycle to write them and then two of them got covid and were in the hospital so never wrote them and I had to scramble
11:41 koalalovingpisces: @pilkyboids: All of my professors said they prefer at least a 6 weeks notice to write a quality letter if you're still in school!
11:41 EasyJuicySparrow: what's the chats consensus on UVA's As up to this point? Do they have significant As in reserve?
11:41 GiddyGemini: Is that a new UT A??
11:42 nota999: On a side note: one of my professors whom I asked for LORs posted on facebook after my acceptance that she'd had two students accepted to different grad programs at georgetown with generous scholarships in 2 days, and that she was feeling very proud. Felt good <3
11:42 seaturtledog: I asked like three months and never
11:42 pilkyboids: Thanks you guys! My temporary plan is to ask in June, I'm a paralegal and asking my bosses so I think that might play into me wanting to give them a big heads up
11:42 seaturtledog: got it
11:42 IcicleBumpkin: @GiddyGemini: no. old
11:43 RuralSmoggyMastiff: I asked the partners at my firm to write one @pilkyboids and they did it within a week but it definitely depends on the relationship you have with them
11:44 pilkyboids: @RuralSmoggyMastiff: Very good to know, thank you
11:44 nota999: I asked an old professor and the head of a group I volunteer with for my LORs, since at the time I wasn't sure how my work would react since they didn't know I was looking at law school at the time.
11:44 nota999: If I'd known how supportive everyone here would be, I might have asked for one from one of them too.
11:44 pilkyboids: @nota999: I feel you on that, it's going to be a loaded thing to tell them haha. That's super encouraging to hear
11:44 RuralSmoggyMastiff: @pilkyboids: no problem! I think because they've all been through the law school admissions process they know how stressful it can be and are likely to get it done faster