NaiveCondemnedMarkhor's profile - Class of 2024

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Rank
2020-2021
Result App type FW Resident Schol... Sent Sent raw Received Received raw Complete Complete raw UR UR raw UR2 UR2 raw II II raw Decision Decision raw
76 American University Pending Unknown
31 Boston College Pending Unknown
20 Boston University Accepted RDregular decision Jan 10 2021-01-10 Jan 20 2021-01-20
24 Emory University Accepted Unknown Feb 13 2021-02-13
27 Fordham University Pending RDregular decision
23 George Washington Un... Pending Unknown
14 Georgetown University Pending RDregular decision
6 New York University Pending RDregular decision
67 Northeastern University Pending RDregular decision
9 Northwestern University Pending Unknown
15 UCLos Angeles Pending RDregular decision
21 UMinnesota Pending Unknown
18 USouthern California Pending RDregular decision
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  • 15:41 UghSad: this is a weird year tho so who knows
  • 15:41 UghSad: and waitlist usage is generally pretty variable
  • 15:44 ToughHardGrouse: harvard has only interviewed ~600-800 students, whereas we would expect about ~900 or so
  • 15:45 UghSad: Ik i do think it looks small, idk what theyre doing
  • 15:45 ncan360: @ToughHardGrouse: Do you think next week will be a big wave, or are they going for a huge WL and expecting higher yield?
  • 15:46 UghSad: I would think this would be a big wave but it doesnt seem like theyve done enough interviews for it to be
  • 15:46 ToughHardGrouse: there wont be a huge wave
  • 15:46 GiantCrookedEarwig: They accepted 968 last year. Given there’s not a 100% conversion rate (KJ1s have already been WL and R this year), they’re more than 1 wave of the same size as the last few from having done enough KJ1s to admit the same numbers.
  • 15:47 ToughHardGrouse: thats assuming constant yield, deferrals, and class size though
  • 15:47 UghSad: Maybe they had more deferals than they have been letting on
  • 15:47 ToughHardGrouse: i would bet on it
  • 15:47 ToughHardGrouse: almost every school lies to raise applicant numbers
  • 15:47 ToughHardGrouse: in small ways or big
  • 15:47 UghSad: (Though they have to release those numbers so lying just seems slimy)
  • 15:47 UghSad: True
  • 15:49 UghSad: So pure speculation, you think this next wave wont be huge but will get harvard to the number of admits they want? Do you think that's significantly under their usual 900 offers
  • 15:50 ToughHardGrouse: i mean i bet it will be larger than normal
  • 15:50 ToughHardGrouse: but not *huge*
  • 15:50 ToughHardGrouse: 22% of people above both medians have already been interviewed
  • 15:51 VitaminD: Hey guys! Can I ask a question about Mich's A
  • 15:51 VitaminD: by last year's graph
  • 15:51 VitaminD: hey dont really admit ppl after feb 28
  • 15:51 VitaminD: :'(
  • 15:51 VitaminD: but they havent gotten to later applicants yet
  • 15:52 VitaminD: =me
  • 15:52 ToughHardGrouse: dont read into that.
  • 15:52 UghSad: Yeah they will let more ppl in
  • 15:52 UghSad: I wouldnt expect big A waves tho
  • 15:52 VitaminD: i see. so just small trickles
  • 15:53 VitaminD: hopefully they give me a result soon
  • 15:53 VitaminD: i applied late Jan
  • 16:12 JimmyButlerDaGoat: one more thing about harvard for those who are interested
  • 16:14 GiantCrookedEarwig: Don’t leave us hanging @Jimmy
  • 16:15 JimmyButlerDaGoat: I went complete mid-late Jan, received a kj1 2-18 (yea I was surprised too) so for later applicants, pretty sure they’re getting to our apps now. I wouldn’t rule this next kj1 wave being big on dec/jan/feb applicants (somebody else alluded to this on reddit)
  • 16:18 JimmyButlerDaGoat: my stats aren’t tremendous either so for anyone waiting/on the waitlist I would tell y’all not to lose hope
  • 16:21 Tahminehdbi: is BU is a good school?
  • 16:21 JimmyButlerDaGoat: Yes!
  • 16:22 Tahminehdbi: why
  • 16:27 GiantCrookedEarwig: @JimmyButlerDaGoat: idk I can see why you stood out since you have a great GPA and most of the Jan/Feb applicants on LSD are below one or both of HLS’ medians.
  • 16:30 JimmyButlerDaGoat: that’s true earwig, but I’m below the LSAT median too. It definitely helps I’m URM, but they’ve been rejecting folks with high stats across groups. All I’m saying is don’t lose hope. You never know what could happen
  • 16:30 JimmyButlerDaGoat: HLS or not, good news is on the way for all of us
  • 16:34 JimmyButlerDaGoat: my interviewer told me I won’t hear back for a few weeks and there’s folks that get still have to interview in the upcoming weeks, so a KJ1 wave is 99.9% coming this week and maybe the one after
  • 16:36 YoungPineapple: Hey y'all - Just wanted to ask, how long do you think it will take to hear back from early Feb apps? Applied mostly around the T10-T20 range, stats close to medians for those schools but not above by much or anything so it'll be close. I'm guessing late March - early April?
  • 16:37 JimmyButlerDaGoat: yeah I would say mid-march to early April
  • 16:39 YoungPineapple: Hope I get the Jimmy Butler treatment. Stats don't tell the full story hahaha
  • 16:40 JimmyButlerDaGoat: LMAOOOOOO facts!!!
  • 16:40 YoungPineapple: Haha Gl with your apps
  • 16:42 JimmyButlerDaGoat: You too pineapple 💪🏾
  • 16:47 PhobicRhetoricalRottweiler: I got a fat ass DONG from Florida state yesterday I am sad. The email hurt my feelings they practically told me I ain’t s h y t compared to the other applicants they admitted :(
  • 16:49 Overlywishfulthinker: What the heck? what did they say
  • 17:03 ToughHardGrouse: @JimmyButlerDaGoat: that was me on reddit.
  • 17:03 ToughHardGrouse: ive been doing a bit more analysis and i think, while the next KJ1 wave will still be dec/jan/feb heavy, i think it will be less heavy on jan/feb than i initially did
  • 17:04 ToughHardGrouse: because there are significantly fewer > 50ths from jan/feb
  • 17:04 ToughHardGrouse: (but the rate is still lower for >50ths in jan/feb)
  • 17:08 ToughHardGrouse: I would say something like ~20-30% Jan, ~0-10% Feb, ~20-30% Dec, rest split equally Sep/Oct/Nov
  • 17:12 JimmyButlerDaGoat: I thought it was you grouse, that was an incredible analysis ! I know you’ve been waiting for your KJ1–im looking forward to seeing your good news in here next thurs!
  • 17:14 JimmyButlerDaGoat: And that totally makes sense, I know there was a decent number of fall applicants in this past wave, so I definitely wouldn’t be surprised by more next week
  • 17:18 JimmyButlerDaGoat: Rottweiler, what did they write?
  • 17:26 PhobicRhetoricalRottweiler: They wrote the applicant pool this year is very strong for their entering class. In other words my application isn’t strong enough.
  • 17:27 PhobicRhetoricalRottweiler: I honestly might not get into any school this year
  • 17:28 ThirstyCaterpillar: when are most seat deposits due?
  • 17:31 Bad-Bunny-Is-My-Dad: Middle of April
  • 17:31 ToughHardGrouse: yeah im really hoping for a KJ1, but we'll see!
  • 17:51 UncertainElectricDolphin: Do we think UVA is done interviewing?
  • 18:07 ToughHardGrouse: definitely not
  • 18:07 ToughHardGrouse: their app isnt even closed yet
  • 18:08 BelowMedianSaddie: omg JIMMY BUTLER IS THE GOAT @JimmyButlerDaGoat:
  • 18:09 JimmyButlerDaGoat: @BelowMedianSaddie: feel me? should’ve won a championship last year lol
  • 18:10 BelowMedianSaddie: things are looking up for this season
  • 18:10 BelowMedianSaddie: i agree tho on last season - poor goran
  • 18:11 LegallyNotBlonde: i had a dream i got all WLs
  • 18:12 JimmyButlerDaGoat: @BelowMedianSaddie: are you a heat fan? That’s wassup lol
  • 18:13 JimmyButlerDaGoat: @LegallyNotBlonde: wow....I have yet to have a law school admissions dream. I’m jealous of y’all l
  • 18:13 JimmyButlerDaGoat: Lol*
  • 18:13 LegallyNotBlonde: it was a true nightmare lol
  • 18:36 NosyInvinciblePug: that feeling when loyola la sends an email....but its promo :(
  • 18:42 rapidwavefire: im somehow still around for hls lol
  • 18:42 rapidwavefire: as a kjd under medians nURM
  • 18:59 NosyInvinciblePug: @rapidwavefire: fingers crossed you get that A!!!
  • 19:00 NosyInvinciblePug: no use checking here on a weekend...but here I am lol
  • 19:11 FlagrantUpbeatTerrier: do harvard people get in without writing the optional essay
  • 19:13 LegallyClueless: to get a wl at hls do u need a interview
  • 19:19 Doggopups: does jannell roberts of lsu law keep emailing you or is that just me
  • 19:25 lauren-law: JANNELL WONT LEAVE ME ALONE
  • 19:27 UghSad: @LegallyClueless: idk if ur still here but nope they interview from the WL
  • 20:19 catpluscoffee: hi friends first time logging on in a few days hope everyone is good <3
  • 20:56 Erra2242: Hi everyone, I have a question about typical scholarship info from the UCs
  • 21:38 ChuckRhoades: go for it erra
  • 22:07 Lawsimp: did anyone apply for any of UCLA's scholarships?
  • 22:29 Erra2242: ^ Hiiii sorry for the late reply
  • 22:29 Erra2242: Yes I applied for the Deans scholarship and got 60K. But I have no idea if. this is considered good/bad/average for the school?
  • 22:34 Lawsimp: oh sorry I meant any of the full tuition scholarships like the achievement fellowship one
  • 22:34 Lawsimp: but I would say that's between good-average
  • 22:34 Lawsimp: ucla is pretty stingy with aid
  • 22:34 Lawsimp: it's also a public school so they don't have much to give
  • 22:34 Lawsimp: I would say 60k with your stats is more good than average
  • 22:36 Lawsimp: actually looking at last year's scholarship I would say average but ucla has not been giving out much scholarship money this year
  • 22:36 Erra2242: @Lawsimp: thank you, that clears it up for me
  • 22:36 Erra2242: Yeah you're right. I don't think I'll get more from somewhere else though so oh well, I'll take it and run I guess haha
  • 22:36 Lawsimp: I would try negotiating if you can
  • 22:37 Lawsimp: ah I'm sorry but if you're in state, at least tuition is cheap!
  • 22:37 Erra2242: I'll try. Maybe GULC will give me something to use to negotiate. Maybe I can get up to 75
  • 22:37 ChuckRhoades: UCLA top tier beyond full tuition is 120k correct?
  • 22:37 Erra2242: ^But yes I am in-state which saves me more. And I don;t think UCB /Stanford will come thru
  • 22:38 Erra2242: @ChuckRhoades: Resident tuition is 52k year, so it would be 156k total base rate
  • 22:38 Erra2242: Out of state adds approx 8k/year
  • 22:41 Lawsimp: @Erra2242: did you go to ucla?
  • 22:41 ChuckRhoades: @Erra2242: forgot about the in state discount
  • 22:41 Erra2242: @Lawsimp: Yes its my undergrad
  • 22:41 Lawsimp: ah cool same here!
  • 22:42 Erra2242: @Lawsimp: Ah yay LA representing! Hah do you intend to stay in CA?
  • 22:42 ChuckRhoades: Are we all from LA👀
  • 22:42 Erra2242: @ChuckRhoades: Yeah... it adds up. I'm happy I got 60 at least but I was hoping my LSAT would net more lol
  • 22:42 Lawsimp: Keeping my options open. I'd like to and my top choice is ulca but I still haven't heard back
  • 22:42 Lawsimp: ucla* lmao
  • 22:43 ChuckRhoades: The famous ULCA! hahaha
  • 22:43 Erra2242: @Lawsimp: oh no.... I'm so sorry >:[ I hope they take you. My "safeties" turned to reaches this cycle
  • 22:44 Lawsimp: lmao same. and I'm a reapplicant so this cycle has been extra crazy
  • 22:44 ChuckRhoades: I’m collecting WL like thanos collected the infinity gauntlet stones
  • 22:44 Lawsimp: which year did you graduate
  • 22:44 NewportDragonfly: @Erra2242: im hoping u get into columbia, cuz if u dont with those stats, i have ZERO shot
  • 22:44 Lawsimp: waitlists this year are insane
  • 22:44 ChuckRhoades: Quite
  • 22:44 Erra2242: Graduated June 2019
  • 22:45 Lawsimp: haha same
  • 22:45 Lawsimp: also did the college honors program
  • 22:45 Erra2242: @NewportDragonfly: I really hope so. At this point, that's my only real option other than UCLA. This cycle sucks ugh. Even with my stats I'm retaking the LSAT lol fml
  • 22:45 ChuckRhoades: I could not bring myself to retake haha
  • 22:45 Erra2242: @Lawsimp: Same!
  • 22:46 Lawsimp: yeah I saw on your profile!
  • 22:46 Erra2242: @ChuckRhoades: I thought I couldn't... but I'm literally barely studying lmao
  • 22:46 Lawsimp: are you guys taking the april one for WL purposes?
  • 22:46 ChuckRhoades: I can just foresee myself getting another 171 for nothing haha
  • 22:47 Erra2242: WL / scholarship / potential transfer purposes. If I get a miracle 180 I'd wait out the cycle and try for HYS lol. But if not, just WL and $$
  • 22:47 Lawsimp: do schools care much about lsat if you try to transfer? I didn't know that
  • 22:47 Erra2242: @ChuckRhoades: tbh I think I'll barely graze the 170s again. But I literally have nothing to lose haha
  • 22:47 ChuckRhoades: Your 1L GPA is the big factor
  • 22:47 Erra2242: @Lawsimp: Not sure. Transfers are really tough to do, but with a high enough LSAT (maybe)
  • 22:48 Erra2242: @ChuckRhoades: Makes sense
  • 22:48 Lawsimp: Yeah I don't want to go to a school with the intention to transfer
  • 22:49 NewportDragonfly: lsat doesnt factor into rankings for transfers and are only supposed to predict 1L grades. since you already have 1L grades, lsat doesnt matter
  • 22:49 Erra2242: Same it's making me kind of nervous lol. I just wanted HYS real bad, oh well
  • 22:49 Lawsimp: ah that makes a lot of sense thank you
  • 22:49 ChuckRhoades: Indeed
  • 22:49 Erra2242: @NewportDragonfly: Really!! Aahhhh thank goodness you told me that... wow
  • 22:49 ChuckRhoades: Not me thinking I had a chance at Columbia with a 171 before this cycle lol
  • 22:49 Erra2242: Ok so it is for WL / scholarship or bust. I have nothing to lose
  • 22:50 Erra2242: @ChuckRhoades: Lmao same!!!!
  • 22:50 ChuckRhoades: 😓🤟🏼
  • 22:50 Erra2242: I was like, eh Columbia will say yes 100%... lol no..
  • 22:50 Lawsimp: okay quick question
  • 22:50 Erra2242: Sure
  • 22:51 Lawsimp: I applied for one of the scholarships at ucla and the prompt was basically to write about adversity and I submitted a version of my diversity statement and then decided to not submit my DS
  • 22:52 Lawsimp: and i don't know if I shot myself in the foot bc what if admissions doesn't read scholarship essays until after you're accepted
  • 22:52 Lawsimp: does anyone know if they read those essays with your application?
  • 22:53 Erra2242: Oooohh
  • 22:53 Erra2242: I think they accept you first and do scholly later
  • 22:53 Erra2242: Darn
  • 22:53 Lawsimp: this has been bothering me for the past few weeks lol
  • 22:53 Erra2242: You could still submit the diversity as an addendum
  • 22:53 Lawsimp: and scholarship candidates already heard back I think
  • 22:54 Erra2242: I just heard back today. For the others, yeah they have been awarding since around mid-Feb I think
  • 22:54 Lawsimp: there was a deadline to submit the app if you were applying for the scholly so I'm not sure what to think
  • 22:54 Lawsimp: I think the Deans
  • 22:54 Lawsimp: scholarship is different
  • 22:54 Erra2242: I see. They probably don't expect people to leave out part of their regular application to use for the scholarship though
  • 22:55 Lawsimp: yeah I assumed they read it all together and decided who to interview when they admitted them
  • 22:55 Erra2242: But I know that universities typically consider scholarships for admitted students (either only or on priority). Because they don't want to do that work for all the apps
  • 22:55 Lawsimp: like NYU does that
  • 22:55 Erra2242: I see. It's unsure bc sometimes it can be a different committee
  • 22:56 Lawsimp: idk if I should email them because it's kinda too late then
  • 22:56 Erra2242: I would literally call the UCLA law aid office and ask. You can dial anonymously so they don't know who you are lol. Usually they're pretty nice and answer questions
  • 22:56 Erra2242: That's the only way you'll get a solid answer. And sometimes they give good advice
  • 22:56 Lawsimp: ooh okay
  • 22:56 Lawsimp: they won't ask my name right LOL
  • 22:57 Lawsimp: I would make up a fake one
  • 22:57 Erra2242: Nope I doubt it, and even if they do you could hang up or say something else
  • 22:57 Lawsimp: hahah okay
  • 22:57 Erra2242: BUT if they do ask your name, it means they probably want to help you - so at that point I would tell them
  • 22:57 Erra2242: So that would be a good sign
  • 22:57 ChuckRhoades: I will pay sticker if NYU takes me after getting the HTE lol
  • 22:58 Lawsimp: @Erra2242: I will call Monday lol
  • 22:59 Lawsimp: sticker at NYU is scary
  • 22:59 Lawsimp: bc tuition and CoL
  • 22:59 Erra2242: @Lawsimp: It's the best. Calling the offices is like a hidden secret lol
  • 22:59 Lawsimp: star 67 right?
  • 22:59 Lawsimp: I haven't anonymously dialed someone in so long LOL
  • 22:59 ChuckRhoades: Omg star 67
  • 23:00 Erra2242: *67 yes bahahaha
  • 23:00 Erra2242: I just had middle school flashbacks
  • 23:00 Erra2242: @ChuckRhoades: NYU sticker is painful
  • 23:07 Erra2242: What do you all think are the best summer associate programs are in the LA area? Supposedly these firms pay major bank to 1Ls lol
  • 23:08 RickshawLover: applied 1/4 to notre dame and BU
  • 23:08 RickshawLover: should i hear back soon
  • 23:09 Erra2242: A lot of these firms offer scholarships too so I'm curious
  • 23:09 Erra2242: @RickshawLover: Hopefully. I mean technically they can delay into April
  • 23:10 JimmyButlerDaGoat: erra you want to practice in LA?
  • 23:11 JimmyButlerDaGoat: did you send in an app to usc?
  • 23:12 Erra2242: @JimmyButlerDaGoat: I didn't initially plan to stay in LA, but given my results, I'm most. likely to do UCLA. I also already live here lol so it's the easiest option. No I didn't apply to USC
  • 23:12 Erra2242: Although USC tends to have better alumni connections than UCLA does