FriendlyTiresomeLeopard's profile - Class of 2024

Stats: 177 / 3.84 / T4

1-4

years
2020-2021 cycle
Result App type FW Resident Schol... Sent Received Complete UR UR2 II Decision
Duke University Pending Unknown
Georgetown University Accepted Unknown
Northwestern University Pending Unknown
Stanford University Pending Unknown
UCBerkeley Accepted Unknown
UCLos Angeles Pending Unknown
UChicago Accepted Unknown Oct 24 Nov 09 Jan 18 Dec 18 Jan 22
UMichigan Pending Unknown
UPennsylvania Waitlisted Unknown
UVirginia Pending Unknown
Status checks in queue: 9
Daily total: 21 路 21 路 14
11:13 Accepted: 馃コ 1NeilDiamond@DePaul
11:13 Accepted: 馃コ 1NeilDiamond@Vermont Law School
11:11 Waitlisted: 馃 1caseofmangos@UC
11:10 Accepted: 馃コ 2VictoriousGuardedDormouse@BU
11:04 Waitlisted: 馃 2PluckyReadyVole@UC
11:04 Accepted: 馃コ 3SoftSplitter24@OSU
10:56 Accepted: 馃コ 7DonDada@Penn
10:53 Accepted: 馃コ 3Ilovefl@Barry University
10:52 Accepted: 馃コ 3DoubtfulPhysicalChicken@Penn
10:45 Waitlisted: 馃 1DelightfulMiniaturePlatypus@FLS
10:42 Accepted: 馃コ 1DelightfulMiniaturePlatypus@IU
10:35 Waitlisted: 馃 1badatusernames@UC
10:31 Accepted: 馃コBriefZealousDormouse@UM
10:31 Rejected: care 1Sathnas14@UC
10:30 Accepted: 馃コLetMeInnnnnnn@Emory University
10:30 Waitlisted: 馃 1MrFezziwig@UC
10:29 Waitlisted: 馃MrFezziwig@CLS
10:28 Accepted: 馃コ 3Khione89@Roger Williams University
10:15 Accepted: 馃コ 7nbean1@Penn
10:14 Waitlisted: 馃 1luminousillusions@UC
10:13 Rejected: care 3StopBeingSerious@UM
10:13 Waitlisted: 馃 1DemonicStupendousUakari@UC
10:13 Rejected: care 1StopBeingSerious@Cornell University
10:13 Accepted: 馃コ 2StopBeingSerious@BC
10:10 Rejected: care 1ZoomLaw2021@Baylor University
9:59 Waitlisted: 馃 1jungleb131@UC
9:57 Accepted: 馃コ 2HeavenlyWoodenMeerkat@Penn
9:41 Rejected: care 2purplelemon@FSU
9:24 Waitlisted: 馃 3ChillKoala@UC
9:20 Waitlisted: 馃 2InspiringElleWoods@UC
9:14 Rejected: care 5SweetChangeableLionfish@UVA
9:14 Waitlisted: 馃SweetChangeableLionfish@UT
9:14 Rejected: care 1SweetChangeableLionfish@HLS
9:13 Rejected: care 1SweetChangeableLionfish@UM
8:44 Accepted: 馃コ 1Smitty@IU
8:43 Waitlisted: 馃Smitty@GW
8:34 Rejected: care 1kd98@UPenn
8:34 Rejected: carekd98@UM
8:34 Rejected: carekd98@UC
8:34 Rejected: care 1kd98@HLS
8:21 Rejected: care 1dragonWarriorPo@UC
8:01 Accepted: 馃コ 1RegularDefectiveLemur@Penn
3:48 Rejected: careParallelManyAardvark@FLS
1:15 Accepted: 馃コnicecleansocks88@USC
1:00 Accepted: 馃コpizzaguy10@UCHastings
0:58 Rejected: care 1JedBartlet33@HLS
0:44 Rejected: careDelaTheDoodle@UC
0:08 Accepted: 馃コsidsidsid@Nova
0:04 Rejected: care 1Chloe@UCLA
0:03 Waitlisted: 馃 1Chloe@UT
0:02 Rejected: care 1Chloe@USC
0:02 Rejected: careChloe@UM
0:01 Rejected: careChloe@GULC
0:01 Accepted: 馃コChloe@BC
23:33 Waitlisted: 馃JusticeWolf@UC
23:08 Waitlisted: 馃 2Stressed-n-Sleepy@BU
22:57 Accepted: 馃コ 3laswb3@WUSTL
22:34 Waitlisted: 馃 3DeliriousOutgoingCatfish@UCLA
22:29 Accepted: 馃コ 3KASEYMACK@Duke
22:16 Accepted: 馃コ 1UnbiasedAnxiousKingfisher@UT
22:11 Waitlisted: 馃 1anjn79@UMD
21:44 Rejected: care 4firstgenlawgal@UCLA
21:39 Waitlisted: 馃IntelligentAbruptMole@UC
21:39 Accepted: 馃コIntelligentAbruptMole@USC
21:16 Accepted: 馃コ 1AFCC972@NYU
20:46 Rejected: care 3lawiral@UO
20:40 Accepted: 馃コ 1SkinnyRavenRunner@CU
20:05 Waitlisted: 馃 1DRAVHEN@UC
20:02 Accepted: 馃コ 1PaltryGratisPoodle@UMD
19:58 Accepted: 馃コ 1thewun@L&C
19:57 Accepted: 馃コ 1thewun@UO
19:15 Waitlisted: 馃 1NosyFastAntelope@UPenn
19:08 Accepted: 馃コ 2YieldingBored@Emory University
18:52 Waitlisted: 馃 1BreakableOutrageousLoon@UC
17:44 Accepted: 馃コ 4TurbulentSouthernPeacock@Emory University
17:26 Waitlisted: 馃 3helloglitter@UC
16:51 Rejected: care 5lawlawland345@SLS
16:49 Accepted: 馃コ 5LawSchoolIsCool@Baylor University
16:48 Rejected: care 3Glaucon191@UC
16:42 Waitlisted: 馃 2VioletNoisyTropicbird@UC
16:41 Rejected: care 2VioletNoisyTropicbird@SLS
16:39 Waitlisted: 馃 1VioletNoisyTropicbird@UPenn
16:37 Accepted: 馃コ 2MeekCompleteHedgehog@UW
16:24 Waitlisted: 馃 1PointyStraw@UC
16:20 Accepted: 馃コ 2lentil@WUSTL
16:14 Accepted: 馃コ 2KeaCam@University of Tulsa
16:11 Accepted: 馃コ 3KeaCam@Baylor University
16:09 Accepted: 馃コ 4Boppity47@WUSTL
16:07 Waitlisted: 馃 1OneWholeToad@UCLA
16:07 Accepted: 馃コEarsplittingBrainyMalamute@UPenn
16:07 Accepted: 馃コ 1EarsplittingBrainyMalamute@UC
15:40 Waitlisted: 馃 3pickledmouse@GW
15:38 Accepted: 馃コ 2FunctionalColorfulRat@UF
15:19 Waitlisted: 馃 2Renzlaw20@Baylor University
14:56 Waitlisted: 馃 2VenomousFastEmu@GULC
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  • 8:37 bchiki32: I feel like none of my statuses have changed, but then again I just made an acct
  • 8:37 bchiki32: I submitted back in late Noc
  • 8:37 bchiki32: Nov
  • 8:40 gingeraleenthusiast: ginger ale!!
  • 8:41 gingeraleenthusiast: I enjoy so much that there is another
  • 9:02 mayoicecream: Were there really Stanford As sent out over the weekend or is that some sort of error...?
  • 9:03 SunshineSally: Wishing everyone Bon Chance - and remember these acceptances and rejections don鈥檛 define us!
  • 9:18 Multivitamin: Best of luck this week everyone!
  • 9:21 abradley42099: Godspeed everyone
  • 9:23 WeekapaugGroove: good luck this week y'all!
  • 9:46 DonkeyFart123: Huge princeton wave today, wish me luck!
  • 9:52 GSDMutt: I told my mother that I got into Princeton Law. She was so happy for me. It hurt to have to inform her that PLS folded around 1852
  • 10:00 SleepyAbstractedChipmunk: Do most folks' statuses get updated daily? I thought mine usually were, but now for several schools there hasn't been an update since Weds of last week. Seems weird.
  • 10:04 yearningtolawyer: idk where you applied, but very rarely will schools update on a regular basis like that
  • 10:04 yearningtolawyer: it's not at all uncommon to go several weeks between UR updates
  • 10:10 DefiantNaiveGiraffe: Is anyone else stuck on "complete" for a really long time?
  • 10:10 justarandompublicservant: should be time for a ND A wave.
  • 10:10 DefiantNaiveGiraffe: Fordham and BC have had me on complete for like 8 weeks...
  • 10:10 justarandompublicservant: I have been complete at ND for 8, and UR at Northwestern for 5.
  • 10:11 DefiantNaiveGiraffe: Does that mean they haven't looked at me yet, or that they arent great at updating statuses?
  • 10:11 yearningtolawyer: idk about fordham and bc, but some schools never update past complete
  • 10:11 justarandompublicservant: Depends on the school, some go complete to decision. others go complete, ur, ur2, decision.
  • 10:13 elshan: @DefiantNaiveGiraffe be thankful about fordham tbh. I was under review for 1 day and got WL
  • 10:14 anoshe: @giraffe: hm when did you apply? i went complete at BC on 1/19 and went UR on 1/22. my account updated before i got the UR email, though, on the 23rd.
  • 10:15 DefiantNaiveGiraffe: I've been complete at Fordham since 12/4 and BC since 12/8
  • 10:15 primeWLmaterial: im complete at BC on 12/7 and still not UR wtf
  • 10:17 DefiantNaiveGiraffe: Yikes, ok, so not just my app...
  • 10:18 nota999: Morning nerds, how's life?
  • 10:19 yearningtolawyer: it's rough nota
  • 10:19 AustralianCity123: Waiting on Emory :')
  • 10:19 yearningtolawyer: i'm just ready to be hit by some WLs soon
  • 10:21 UnableGrouchyBat: anyone else's BU status change this AM?
  • 10:22 nota999: Not mine, but that's probably not super helpful for you lol
  • 10:22 ZoomLaw2021: baylor or boston?
  • 10:22 UnableGrouchyBat: Boston
  • 10:22 ZoomLaw2021: can't say for Boston
  • 10:23 UnableGrouchyBat: BU is hard for me to track bc I went UR twice that week of Xmas but people think they may have updated their system so I have no idea if Im at UR1, 2, 3, neither, or something else entirely
  • 10:23 anoshe: @giraffe and @prime: oh hmm did you guys apply for BC's PI scholarship? maybe that's it?
  • 10:26 nota999: Oh! So folks here might have seen this already, but during the last Penn wave, someone figured out that it seems to be based really heavily on the UR1 date instead of the UR2, just to help folks manage expectations before the next wave
  • 10:26 nota999: (UPenn not Penn State)
  • 10:26 NicklausCopernicus18: How long do people seem to stay UR2 at UVA before hearing anything (i.e. interview request etc)?
  • 10:26 NicklausCopernicus18: Just anecdotally?
  • 10:27 FertileSecretiveUguisu: @Nick months. ages, even
  • 10:27 NicklausCopernicus18: What i figured lol
  • 10:27 mireina: Any predicted movement from W&M or VAndy?
  • 10:27 FertileSecretiveUguisu: I've been UR2 for like a month
  • 10:27 NicklausCopernicus18: Considering it was already months for me to go from UR1 to UR2
  • 10:28 nota999: I expect Vandy to keep up with their slow trickle of decisions
  • 10:28 FertileSecretiveUguisu: watching WUSTL accept people who applied a month after I interviewed get in with lower LSAT and gpa yike
  • 10:29 apple12: just went ur2 at duke... fingers crossed they're starting to get moving
  • 10:30 nota999: @Uguisu especially when it's like "I interviewed then got in two days later" like good to know I whiffed my interview, I guess?
  • 10:31 BelowMedianSaddie: how do i get fordham to put me under review
  • 10:32 NicklausCopernicus18: @apple yeahhhhh I went UR2 at Duke over a month ago lol
  • 10:36 LetMeInnnnnnn: In at Emory, got a letter today, applied first week of December
  • 10:36 nota999: Congrats!
  • 10:37 AustralianCity123: congrats!~
  • 10:37 BelowMedianSaddie: guess they let you Innnnnnn
  • 10:39 apple12: Darn it @ Nicklaus but congrats letmein!!!
  • 10:40 UnableGrouchyBat: email for Emory or package?
  • 10:40 LetMeInnnnnnn: package, haven't read through it yet since I've got to be on meetings for the next hour and a half but it did include a decent merit scholarship
  • 10:40 anoshe: Congrats!
  • 10:40 UnableGrouchyBat: congrats!!
  • 10:40 RhetoricalPriceyTropicbird: @nick UR1 10/5, UR2 10/26, interview invite 11/18, accepted 11/23 for UVA
  • 10:41 LetMeInnnnnnn: thanks all, great to have the first acceptance so I know I didn't completely screw up my applications lol!
  • 10:41 RhetoricalPriceyTropicbird: congrats letmein!
  • 10:41 AustralianCity123: @letmein did it come via Fedex?
  • 10:42 LetMeInnnnnnn: I'll have to check the envelope when I get back to the other room, it was in our building's mailbox for my unit, though
  • 10:42 anoshe: curious, did you ever try and log into the emory opus site?
  • 10:43 LetMeInnnnnnn: I did but I did not see any indicator of acceptance
  • 10:45 anoshe: oh interesting! lol we went complete on the same day so i thought i'd ask.
  • 10:47 nota999: The first acceptance is always a weight off the shoulders, for sure
  • 10:47 nota999: I'd be way more of a neurotic mess this cycle if I hadn't had that A from UofAZ
  • 10:49 WetCrookedMeerkat: i just missed a call from st. louis, MO and got so damn excited until i remembered that i didn't even apply to WashU
  • 10:50 anoshe: haha!
  • 10:50 nota999: I wouldn't count it out. Some days it feels like WashU is gonna start admitted people who didn't even apply before they finally get around to my app lol
  • 10:50 WetCrookedMeerkat: that is... so painful i'm sorry
  • 10:51 anoshe: tragically i don't get service in my office :/ or maybe that's good since i don't get car warranty calls lol
  • 10:51 WetCrookedMeerkat: it's a good thing for sure because i went from "sorry i only pick up calls from my mother" to picking up every single spam call in existence :)
  • 10:52 nota999: Same lol
  • 10:52 nota999: like "I know this school is in Missouri, but maybe someone is calling from their cell phone and they have a Colorado number?"
  • 10:52 nota999: And then I start applying the clown makeup
  • 10:53 WetCrookedMeerkat: but some schools are using Google Voice numbers from different area codes, so ur not entirely wrong
  • 10:53 WetCrookedMeerkat: or that's what i tell myself when i pick up calls from CANADA
  • 10:57 [A] cryptanon: helloooo chat
  • 10:57 [A] cryptanon: any 500 errors today?
  • 10:57 nota999: Morning crypt, no errors so far
  • 10:57 WetCrookedMeerkat: smooth sailing, thanks to u :)
  • 10:58 UnableGrouchyBat: ditto
  • 10:58 nota999: Thanks for finding the time to work on this site while also juggling HLS lol
  • 10:58 [A] cryptanon: great, hopefully it stays that way so that i can work on more interesting features
  • 10:59 [A] cryptanon: @nota999: i'm actually taking spring semester off to work full-time on bundlebee and lsdata :)
  • 10:59 nota999: Oh nice! Also valid!
  • 11:00 [A] cryptanon: yeah, i worked remotely for 7 years before law school and went to school for the in-person aspect
  • 11:00 [A] cryptanon: covid kinda ruined that lol
  • 11:00 BelowMedianSaddie: is harvard v lenient about taking time off? i think everyone i know who went to hls ended up taking a semester off for something
  • 11:00 BelowMedianSaddie: (something fun!)
  • 11:01 nota999: Mood. I was thinking about law school last year, and almost hopped in that cycle. Once covid hit, I was glad that I decided to wait another year lol
  • 11:01 [A] cryptanon: yeah, it's basically a no-questions-asked leave of absence policy for this winter/spring
  • 11:02 [A] cryptanon: although i think HLS generally has a very lenient leave of absence policy... one of the lecturers i talked to did 1L at HLS, spent 10 years touring with metallica or something, and then went back to finish his degree
  • 11:02 [A] cryptanon: and now he's teaching at HLS
  • 11:02 CowardlyJuicyCamel: Hi, thanks for this amazing software. where are you up too with bumble bee? will it be ready for this cycle?
  • 11:03 nota999: Well that would certainly give him something to talk about at OCIs lol
  • 11:03 BelowMedianSaddie: whoa that is.....way more fun than what my friends have done lmao
  • 11:03 Torquatus: i hope class sizes arent raised too much
  • 11:04 [A] cryptanon: BundleBee will definitely be ready for this cycle. we reached out to the first batch of banks last week, got replies. our first zoom meeting is scheduled for this thursday
  • 11:04 [A] cryptanon: i'll be sending out an email update to bundlebee users this week or next
  • 11:04 jp100123: If I applied in Sept. and haven't heard back from Y or H, am I most likely facing a WL/R?
  • 11:05 CowardlyJuicyCamel: YEAH, THANKS
  • 11:06 [A] cryptanon: i encourage everyone to sign up for BundleBee asap cuz it's really all upside. there's 0 commitment so even if you get a full ride somewhere, the only impact on you will be that you helped us negotiate lower rates for everyone else
  • 11:07 StraightLimpingFrog: question: just went UR2 at Berk, good sign? bad sign? stop overthinking?
  • 11:07 JoeDangit: man. i'm so upset.
  • 11:07 JoeDangit: My Buffalo Bills ain't go far at all yesterday
  • 11:07 JoeDangit: i bought like 2 plastic tables
  • 11:07 nota999: I keep forgetting to sign up for bundlebee. LSData gets through the web filter at work but bundlebee doesn't, and I don't check the site at home nearly as much
  • 11:08 FrankOcean: hi Joe
  • 11:08 JoeDangit: oh what's up frank
  • 11:08 JoeDangit: what's going on this morning, buddy?
  • 11:08 CowardlyJuicyCamel: how will it compare to gov student loans?
  • 11:09 masterofallfoursections: @straight i think thats a good sign considering they do A waves on tuesday!
  • 11:10 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Good morning everyone
  • 11:10 nota999: Mornin squirrel
  • 11:10 FrankOcean: good morning
  • 11:10 FrankOcean: we're good
  • 11:10 FrankOcean: looking at applying to more jobs bc idk how tf im going to acquire more funds to pay for law school
  • 11:10 JoeDangit: i feel that.
  • 11:10 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: You'll never pay for law school dawg, just accept the inevitable loans
  • 11:10 FrankOcean: fax
  • 11:10 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Debt on debt on debt
  • 11:10 JoeDangit: it sucks because the job market is pretty awful too.
  • 11:10 FrankOcean: but i could use some more cash
  • 11:10 JoeDangit: nah, empty is lowkey right.
  • 11:11 FrankOcean: its impossible rn
  • 11:11 [A] cryptanon: @Camel: it's still too early to know what rates will be, and i think what i'm allowed to say about loans is super regulated... but speaking as a private individual, federal unsubsidized loans are a very hard deal to beat, but they're limited in what you can take out. private loans will probably be better for filling the gap
  • 11:11 JoeDangit: my friend is like "if I save up 70k working for a year, i can pay for law school."
  • 11:11 JoeDangit: and he's clowning a bit
  • 11:11 Torquatus: dont worry once inflation hits some more debt will all evaporate
  • 11:11 JoeDangit: just ask ur parents for more money bro dang
  • 11:11 nota999: I'm in the annoying position of, on the one hand, not wanting to leave the job I have in order to save money, but on the other hand not wanting to work for a place that's super underpaying me
  • 11:11 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Maybe Joe will make all the loans disappear :D
  • 11:11 yearningtolawyer: @crypt is bundlebee only for private loans?
  • 11:11 JoeDangit: nota, i got one word of advice tbh.
  • 11:11 JoeDangit: know ur worth, g.
  • 11:12 JoeDangit: i feel like that is the best advice anyone can give anyone
  • 11:12 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Wait, have y'all worked jobs that haven't underpaid you?
  • 11:12 nota999: Ye, I've got some wage negotiations coming up soon, and I've got a floor in my head where if they try to offer me anything below that I'm leaving.
  • 11:12 JoeDangit: i worked a job that overpaid me
  • 11:12 [A] cryptanon: @yearningtolawyer: yeah, i don't think we're gonna get big enough to negotiate with the federal gov't this year ;)
  • 11:12 JoeDangit: i've also worked a few unp-aid internships
  • 11:12 nota999: I mean, most jobs I've done have underpaid me, but most have been at least above the 10th percentile.
  • 11:12 JoeDangit: which should be illegal
  • 11:13 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: I've had one unpaid internship, definitely should be illegal lol
  • 11:13 JoeDangit: okay if I get any acceptances, waitlists, or rejections this week
  • 11:13 Torquatus: you were paid with valuable experience
  • 11:13 JoeDangit: i'm definitely going to jump onto these plastic tables
  • 11:13 JoeDangit: bills mafia style
  • 11:14 sufferingprelaw: unpaid internships are the worst, especially when they're for campaigns that claim they pay fair wages!
  • 11:14 JoeDangit: saved them for last night thinking that josh allen was gonna take it all the way, but he couldn't deliver.
  • 11:14 nota999: @Torquatus unfortunately, Safeway wouldn't accept valuable job experience to pay for my groceries lol
  • 11:14 fearseitan: love to tell my landlord "i don't have money but I CAN pay you with this valuable experience I got"
  • 11:14 Torquatus: lol
  • 11:14 JoeDangit: is there ever any valuable experience tbh
  • 11:14 JoeDangit: the most valuable experience i ever got was how to hone my Alt+tab skills
  • 11:14 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: My unpaid internship gave me a gift at the end of the experience though! A $5 Starbucks gift card
  • 11:14 sufferingprelaw: networking i guess? thats what they claim
  • 11:14 JoeDangit: to pretend that i was working
  • 11:14 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: What can I get with $5
  • 11:15 JoeDangit: a cup of water.
  • 11:15 nota999: A small drip coffee
  • 11:15 JoeDangit: you ungrateful
  • 11:15 JoeDangit: pull urself up by ur bootstraps damn
  • 11:15 fearseitan: I did an unpaid internship while working in theatre and it did land me my first broadway shows but I also ate 1 shit meal a day every day for a whole summer
  • 11:15 fearseitan: and worked 16 hour days
  • 11:15 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Damn what a soft @fear
  • 11:15 Torquatus: intermittent fasting
  • 11:15 fearseitan: lmao
  • 11:15 Torquatus: a healthy diet
  • 11:15 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Famous actor in our chat
  • 11:16 fearseitan: stage manager*
  • 11:16 fearseitan: i will never act in my life
  • 11:16 fearseitan: ~anxiety~
  • 11:16 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Still cool
  • 11:16 fearseitan: thanks hope the adcoms think so too
  • 11:16 nota999: My unpaid internship did give me some nice 2nd degree connections in DC. Unfortunately, they're in an industry that I realized I didn't want to work in (hence now going to law school instead)
  • 11:17 Torquatus: i had a paid internship at mcdonalds
  • 11:17 JoeDangit: What industry was it, nota?
  • 11:17 JoeDangit: just curious.
  • 11:17 BelowMedianSaddie: i ran an internship program and i made them make it paid - the second i left they reverted back to unpaid
  • 11:17 BelowMedianSaddie: :/
  • 11:17 nota999: foreign policy, esp in the middle east
  • 11:17 JoeDangit: I always felt like unpaid internships were more centric to like humanitites/poli sci majors
  • 11:17 JoeDangit: oh yeah, nvm.
  • 11:18 JoeDangit: that's pretty dope though.
  • 11:18 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: I did an unpaid internship in a social work field, it was cool but there is something that is cooler. Money.
  • 11:18 SydBarewithit: most of my friends who got marketing internships were unpaid
  • 11:18 nota999: Realized as I was starting to actually get jobs in that field that I liked it way more as an academic subject than a career. So I left my MA program and went back home while I got my shit sorted.
  • 11:18 JoeDangit: Empty, I feel that so much lol
  • 11:18 JoeDangit: Social work is so fulfilling
  • 11:18 JoeDangit: but it burns you out so fast
  • 11:19 JoeDangit: esp if it's unpaid
  • 11:19 EmptyAuspiciousSquirrel: Yeah...I do love it, it an be very rewarding. Love working with people through shit like that, hence my interest in law