Covidcycle20's profile - Class of 2024

Stats: 163 / 3.68 / T4

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For what it’s worth...

Applying to law school in the year of Covid has been stressful and unpredictable. Will next year be as competitive? IMO yes. LSAT Flex has increased averages and with so many applicants applying due to Covid/economy there will be deferrals.

Apply as early in September as possible. Non 170+ applicants did better early on than later. Acceptance rates and scholarship amounts. December is still considered early but in a competitive cycle not early enough and it only became more competitive each month.

Apply broadly. Not everyone knows where they want to practice or what type of law they are interested in. And that’s O.K. Don’t listen to those who say you must attend school where you want to practice. Big Law, probably but not everyone is Big Law. Law Schools aren’t big enough to accommodate this. Use your Summers to network and intern where you think you want to practice.

It’s ok if you aren’t a 170+ applicant. You can still be very successful. Interview a few local lawyers about their education and career path.

Be open minded and flexible because you may not get into your target/reach/dream school. You’ll be ok.

Take on as little debt as possible or only if it’s equitable to your career path.

Visit campuses before making your decision. Formally or on your own. You’ll get a feeling of belonging or not, choose wisely because this is where you’ll be for three stressful years.

Apply to more than 6 schools if you can. You’ll need negotiating schools plus you don’t want to have to stress apply late.

FAFSA - if you add your parents income only those schools who require it use it. If you’re under 26 more than likely you’ll need it. If you apply to more than 10 schools, you start the process again and add the next ten - a week or more later.

At this point if you’re questioning if law school is for you or if you should wait another year , then no... law school isn’t for you and or you aren’t ready. I’m not talking about the typical stress question. I’m referring to those who seriously post these questions on the Reddit admissions group. Do not post a chance me on Reddit. No one knows more than anyone else if you have a chance. Just. Do. It.

Bottom line - it’s the numbers. Softs, addendums, personal statements matter less than you think. Yes, write the personal statement, addendums, extra why? Because if it just may be the extra push you need for that school. Keep in mind even you have the best softs, PS, addendum - numbers come first. Study for the LSAT and retest until you’re happy. Your gpa matters, especially when scholarships are awarded.

Good luck

Rank
2020-2021
Result App type FW Resident Schol... Sent Sent raw Received Received raw Complete Complete raw UR UR raw UR2 UR2 raw II II raw Decision Decision raw
31 Boston College WL, Withdrawn RDregular decision Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Feb 10 2021-02-10 Feb 18 2021-02-18
50 Florida State Univer... Accepted, Wi... RDregular decision $61,042 Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Mar 05 2021-03-05 Mar 05 2021-03-05
38 Indiana University -... Waitlisted RDregular decision Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Jan 27 2021-01-27 Mar 02 2021-03-02
38 Ohio State University Pending RDregular decision Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Dec 15 2020-12-15
60 Texas A&M University Accepted, Wi... RDregular decision $131,955 Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Jan 06 2021-01-06 Feb 25 2021-02-25
50 UConnecticut Waitlisted RDregular decision Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Dec 29 2020-12-29 Jan 29 2021-01-29 Mar 12 2021-03-12
24 UFlorida (Levin) Withdrawn RDregular decision Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Dec 21 2020-12-21 Feb 10 2021-02-10 Mar 10 2021-03-10
31 UGeorgia Waitlisted RDregular decision Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Jan 14 2021-01-14 Mar 16 2021-03-16
31 UIllinois—Urbana Cha... Accepted, Wi... RDregular decision $101,250 Oct 31 2020-10-31 Nov 03 2020-11-03 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Jan 13 2021-01-13
27 UIowa Accepted RDregular decision $104,065 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 18 2020-12-18
9 UMichigan Rejected RDregular decision Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Feb 19 2021-02-19
21 UMinnesota Rejected RDregular decision Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Dec 21 2020-12-21 Mar 17 2021-03-17
27 UNorth Carolina Rejected RDregular decision Jan 22 2021-01-22 Apr 02 2021-04-02
38 UWisconsin Accepted, Wi... RDregular decision $90,000 Oct 31 2020-10-31 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Dec 15 2020-12-15 Jan 19 2021-01-19
18 Vanderbilt University Hold, Rejected EDearly decision
62 Villanova University Waitlisted RDregular decision Dec 13 2020-12-13 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Jan 20 2021-01-20 Mar 05 2021-03-05
42 Wake Forest University Pending RDregular decision Oct 31 2020-10-31 Nov 02 2020-11-02 Nov 03 2020-11-03 Jan 04 2021-01-04 Feb 24 2021-02-24
17 Washington Universit... Pending RDregular decision
31 William & Mary Law S... Waitlisted RDregular decision Oct 31 2020-10-31 Nov 02 2020-11-02 Nov 03 2020-11-03 Feb 15 2021-02-15
53 Yeshiva University (... Withdrawn RDregular decision Dec 14 2020-12-14 Dec 14 2020-12-14 Feb 12 2021-02-12
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  • 23:02 RaspberryEnthusiast: I'm also in a weird place about housing which is why I really want to have solid plans by end of may even though I know there might be more openings after the second deposit deadline
  • 23:02 RaspberryEnthusiast: because if I end up in davis it's already exorbitant there and would just be worse if I tried to get it any later than that I think
  • 23:08 CEOoftheUCIwaitlist: go to bed losers
  • 23:08 CEOoftheUCIwaitlist: *checks status*
  • 23:10 FriendlyForestFrog: @CEOoftheUCIwaitlist: bed? I haven't slept in 2021. Sleeping for me IS refreshing my status
  • 23:13 Janetsvoid: Has anyone else become like near alcoholics this cycle
  • 23:14 DatBoiWaddup: No but I've considered drinking more often lately lmao
  • 23:14 Janetsvoid: I mean I’m petite so can’t drink a ton anyway but I hate to say the daily wine or margarita has been bad
  • 23:14 Janetsvoid: And work doesn’t help
  • 23:16 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: i've been drinking more coffee (decaf) for some reason..something about the smell calms me down a bit
  • 23:16 PhobicWantingBadger: Has anyone heard of or have attempted to reach out to see about extensions on the admittance payment deadlines?
  • 23:17 Janetsvoid: @FriendlyForestFrog: Oh I can def relate to that. Except with wine
  • 23:17 FriendlyForestFrog: @PhobicWantingBadger: I got an extension from one school after reaching out. Was super easy. They didn't have a problem at all
  • 23:17 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: :-)
  • 23:19 mma23a: DOGE
  • 23:20 PhobicWantingBadger: Thanks for the information frog
  • 23:21 FriendlyForestFrog: @PhobicWantingBadger: np :-)
  • 23:22 Janetsvoid: @FriendlyForestFrog: are you waiting on NYU too?
  • 23:22 FriendlyForestFrog: I feel like most schools would rather give an extension than you turn them down since they are trying to YP
  • 23:22 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: Yep, on Hold at NYU
  • 23:22 lil-froggo: @PhobicWantingBadger: I asked for one and didn’t get it, but they were still friendly and the door may
  • 23:23 lil-froggo: remain open
  • 23:23 FriendlyForestFrog: @lil-froggo: oh, that sucks
  • 23:23 FriendlyForestFrog: I did ask about a week ago, so maybe that was the difference
  • 23:23 lil-froggo: it’s ok!
  • 23:23 lil-froggo: yeah that’s also true
  • 23:23 lil-froggo: i had 1 day to deposit lol
  • 23:24 FriendlyForestFrog: The deposits are a lot of dough...especially since my finances really took a hit this past year
  • 23:24 FriendlyForestFrog: and I applied to 30 schools with almost no waivers...
  • 23:25 Janetsvoid: There are so many of us on hold
  • 23:25 lil-froggo: worth it 😆
  • 23:25 Janetsvoid: Wow 30?! That’s serious dedication
  • 23:26 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: I think it was worth it to blanket the T14, but I think I went overboard
  • 23:26 FriendlyForestFrog: I panic applied to 2 schools last week, shouldn't have done that
  • 23:26 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: NYU is being super cautious
  • 23:27 FriendlyForestFrog: Did NYU have a deposit deadline for their admits today?
  • 23:27 lil-froggo: i mean you’re probably only applying once
  • 23:27 FriendlyForestFrog: @lil-froggo: true
  • 23:27 Janetsvoid: I think their scholly deadline was today?
  • 23:27 lil-froggo: oh do they?
  • 23:27 Janetsvoid: Deposit deadline end of April
  • 23:28 FriendlyForestFrog: hopefully we'll see some movement then...I guess they are going to take care of the Holds before dipping into their WL
  • 23:28 FriendlyForestFrog: oh...just saw they have like no WLs
  • 23:29 Janetsvoid: Yeah I don’t think those WL are real either. They were logged before the “hold”
  • 23:29 Janetsvoid: Option was created
  • 23:30 FriendlyForestFrog: I still don't quite get the difference b/w NYU Hold and WLs at other schools..
  • 23:30 FriendlyForestFrog: by keeping the Holds stringing along so late into the cycle, it's basically acting as a WL
  • 23:31 Janetsvoid: I think the main difference is the NYU holds dont necessarily mean they’ve reviewed your application
  • 23:31 Janetsvoid: In full
  • 23:31 UghSad: the nyu scholly deadline is tomorrow
  • 23:31 UghSad: 4/16
  • 23:31 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: I want my money back then, lol
  • 23:31 Janetsvoid: And that they’ll give holds an A before deposit deadlines
  • 23:31 Janetsvoid: Or WL/R
  • 23:32 Janetsvoid: @FriendlyForestFrog: LOL right
  • 23:32 FriendlyForestFrog: I guess that's good. I wish all schools had the same deposit deadlines
  • 23:32 FriendlyForestFrog: I feel like I had to waste money today bc some schools are working on a different schedule
  • 23:32 Janetsvoid: @UghSad: ah gotcha thanks
  • 23:33 Janetsvoid: I wish I had your NYU a so I can even contemplate schollys
  • 23:34 FriendlyForestFrog: If another school accepts me or I get off a WL, I'm going to ask for a discount equal to my paid deposit at the previous school, lol
  • 23:34 UghSad: Np, some people have a later deadline because NYU has been slow with some schollys but I think a lot of people will withdraw tomorrow so hopefully you guys will see some movement
  • 23:35 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: hopefully!
  • 23:36 Janetsvoid: @UghSad: do you know where you’re going yet?
  • 23:37 UghSad: I'm leaning CLS
  • 23:38 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: you've had a great cycle!
  • 23:38 Janetsvoid: ^^seriously though!
  • 23:38 FriendlyForestFrog: congrats!
  • 23:38 Janetsvoid: But also your stats are stellar
  • 23:39 FriendlyForestFrog: ^^^yes!
  • 23:39 UghSad: @FriendlyForestFrog: thanks! It's been a crazy cycle I'm definitely happy with my options (though I wanted more lower t14 $, but whatever)
  • 23:39 FriendlyForestFrog: I see you also got the Berk R
  • 23:40 UghSad: Lol berk left me in read for so long
  • 23:40 UghSad: just to R me
  • 23:40 FriendlyForestFrog: I was a little offended at how quickly Berk sent me the R, hurt my feelings
  • 23:40 Janetsvoid: Is berk known for being unpredictable?
  • 23:40 Janetsvoid: @UghSad: I’m shocked they just Red you
  • 23:41 UghSad: I've heard they're picky with GPAs and KJDs?
  • 23:41 UghSad: I think they just hit their quota of above both medians and were like yup we can toss this one
  • 23:42 FriendlyForestFrog: I've just always loved the Bay Area, so expensive tho
  • 23:42 FriendlyForestFrog: Still holding out (slim) hope for Stanford..been ghosted
  • 23:42 UghSad: I would not have stayed on the berk waitlist so honestly probably the right choice on their part
  • 23:43 UghSad: @FriendlyForestFrog: I don't get why Stanford is so slow it is mid april
  • 23:44 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: right? And I don't think they have as much of a YP concern as some of the other T14s
  • 23:45 Janetsvoid: I think there is some merit to saying that every school has had YP concerns this year bc it’s been an unusual year for them too.
  • 23:45 UghSad: @FriendlyForestFrog: I just think they know they can do what they want so take their time... most people will still say yes to Stanford even if they are already deposited
  • 23:45 Janetsvoid: Just so many applicants and high scores
  • 23:46 FriendlyForestFrog: agree with both of you
  • 23:46 UghSad: I think a lot of schools are concerned about overenrolling too more than just yield
  • 23:47 FriendlyForestFrog: I just hope the T14s still have money to offer should I get an A
  • 23:47 Janetsvoid: @UghSad: right agreed that’s what I meant
  • 23:47 Janetsvoid: @FriendlyForestFrog: I’m not banking on it :(
  • 23:48 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: I would be crushed with a T14 acceptance and no money...I mean I would be thankful, but it wouldn't be practical
  • 23:48 UghSad: @FriendlyForestFrog: which ones are you still waiting on
  • 23:49 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: WL at CLS, Penn, UVA, Mich, Duke, UCLA, WashU and UGA. Hold at NYU. Pending at Stanford and Alabama.
  • 23:50 FriendlyForestFrog: R at Yale, Berk and Texas
  • 23:50 Janetsvoid: I’m still salty HLS took six months to WL me
  • 23:50 UghSad: I think that after deposit deadlines $$ will hopefully open up from withdrawals but schools also have so many people to chose I feel like they can be stingy
  • 23:50 FriendlyForestFrog: @Janetsvoid: maybe they'll make it up to you :-)))
  • 23:51 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: I know. The odds aren't great
  • 23:51 Janetsvoid: @FriendlyForestFrog: haha oh god don’t even give me hope. I’ve already written an I’m passionate loci
  • 23:51 MomentousMercifulCoati: Berk 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
  • 23:52 UghSad: waitlists are definitely a wildcard this year tho so I would have some hope
  • 23:52 nirvana: which schools have yp probs?
  • 23:52 UghSad: define yp problems
  • 23:52 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: I'm dep'd at Minn for now, and I'm ok with that if no WLs come through
  • 23:52 WrathfulHighfalutinBandicoot: When do we think T25 will start to move their waitlists this cycle
  • 23:52 UghSad: Michigan waitlists everyone, possibly a yp problem
  • 23:52 nirvana: like struggle with getting people to come once they get the A...or do any of them even have that
  • 23:53 nirvana: OH
  • 23:53 Janetsvoid: Define struggle haha
  • 23:53 Janetsvoid: I think NYU and penn have pretty low yield
  • 23:53 Janetsvoid: Relatively
  • 23:53 nirvana: ohh didnt know that
  • 23:53 nirvana: need my wl to move to the sweet A
  • 23:53 UghSad: @FriendlyForestFrog: you just need one option you're happy with and if something else pans out that's super great
  • 23:54 UghSad: Chicago has a trash yield
  • 23:54 nirvana: :o
  • 23:54 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: Agreed!
  • 23:54 MasterPain: anyone ever gotten their unconditional scholarship increased and made conditional
  • 23:54 nirvana: this stuff is on their 509s huh
  • 23:55 UghSad: Ik the 7 sage predictor has sucked this yr but it makes it pretty easy to look at yield data if you sort by rank
  • 23:55 UghSad: https://7sage.com/predictor/
  • 23:55 UghSad: There is probably an easier way than that to tho lol
  • 23:56 UghSad: @MasterPain: did that happen to you
  • 23:56 MasterPain: no but i feel like itd be an interesting gamble
  • 23:56 nirvana: thank u!
  • 23:56 MasterPain: like, hey, give me 10k extra a year and make 20k of the new total conditional
  • 23:56 MasterPain: bet on yourself
  • 23:57 UghSad: I have not heard of that happening only the other way
  • 0:00 FriendlyForestFrog: anyone else run the numbers with a full scholly and realized loans for COL for 3 years is still a huge amount of money...?
  • 0:01 UghSad: @FriendlyForestFrog: especially in cities :/
  • 0:04 FriendlyForestFrog: @UghSad: yes! It made me rethink some of my full schollys; like the marginal cost of another school with slightly better outcomes that is in a cheaper place is actually not that huge
  • 0:05 FriendlyForestFrog: also, calculating the size of my loans taking into account interest accrued over the 3 years was a big AHA moment for me in this process
  • 0:07 FriendlyForestFrog: someone posted a really helpful spreadsheet on reddit where u just input numbers and it calculates loan size at graduation and tells you your estimated monthly payment based on how long u want to be repaying
  • 0:07 RaspberryEnthusiast: hey, can someone else who's admitted to w&m tell me if there's some kind of admitted students thing on the 21st or if I made it up in a fever dream?
  • 0:07 RaspberryEnthusiast: I could have sworn it was a thing that was happening but now I can't find a record of it anywhere
  • 0:08 UghSad: Schools know that so I feel like they adjust their scholarship offers accordingly sometimes (cough cough Duke being like ah NC is cheap)
  • 0:08 UghSad: there's definitely a few loan calculators I have looked at, interest sucks
  • 0:09 FriendlyForestFrog: yes. I wish there was no interest for Stafford/GradPlus while enrolled in law school
  • 0:09 UghSad: or at least really low interest and lower loan fees
  • 0:12 FriendlyForestFrog: *sigh* bedtime. have a goodnight everyone. sending u positive vibes! :-))
  • 0:13 UghSad: Gn :)
  • 0:14 RaspberryEnthusiast: god I really somehow must have fever dreamed an entire event????
  • 0:15 RaspberryEnthusiast: I swear I wrote it in my calendar book and everything
  • 0:19 RaspberryEnthusiast: FOUND IT I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY
  • 0:19 lil-froggo: @UghSad: nice cycle 🤩
  • 0:31 UghSad: @lil-froggo: thnx :)
  • 0:41 LearnedFineBombay: raspberry can i ask u a q
  • 0:44 RaspberryEnthusiast: go for it
  • 1:18 OssifiedHistoricalKoala: Nyu really dropped a reject at 1am
  • 1:19 VioletSadUmbrellabird: you're shitting me
  • 1:19 VioletSadUmbrellabird: like it was a new dls
  • 1:19 VioletSadUmbrellabird: Im so sorry
  • 1:20 rebeccatamar: RIP my NYU dreams
  • 1:21 LearnedFineBombay: what the hell
  • 1:21 VioletSadUmbrellabird: what the **** is going on
  • 1:24 nirvana: something about getting denied while im going to bed
  • 1:24 nirvana: personally i am going to cry ❤️
  • 1:25 VioletSadUmbrellabird: I am so sorry yall this is ****ed
  • 1:26 LearnedFineBombay: did you get it nirvana?
  • 1:26 LearnedFineBombay: i'm so sorry
  • 1:27 nirvana: indeed
  • 1:27 nirvana: ty
  • 1:27 LearnedFineBombay: big hug... i hope u have some other good options!!
  • 1:28 RaspberryEnthusiast: NYU has chosen violence
  • 1:28 RaspberryEnthusiast: This means war
  • 1:29 LearnedFineBombay: btw rasp i was gonna ask how u were feeling
  • 1:29 VioletSadUmbrellabird: its a certain type of cruelty goddamn
  • 1:29 RaspberryEnthusiast: @LearnedFineBombay: about what lol
  • 1:29 LearnedFineBombay: results
  • 1:30 RaspberryEnthusiast: Oh. Pleasantly surprised by a few of the WLs I snuck onto, not surprised at As I didn’t get and Rs I did (except Michigan)
  • 1:30 RaspberryEnthusiast: Hopeful about WLs, maybe too much so
  • 1:30 LearnedFineBombay: bro you deserve much better
  • 1:30 LearnedFineBombay: i hope you get off a bomb waitlist or reapply
  • 1:30 LearnedFineBombay: i really think it was applying in february
  • 1:30 RaspberryEnthusiast: I’m not reapplying no matter what, I just can’t burn another year doing nothing
  • 1:31 LearnedFineBombay: understandable
  • 1:31 RaspberryEnthusiast: Thanks for the thoughts though, I appreciate it
  • 1:31 LearnedFineBombay: of course!! i am wishing the best for u!
  • 1:31 RaspberryEnthusiast: <3
  • 1:58 HeartbreakingSpookyTarantula: if you guys haven't seen it the infamous xoxoggirl made a slick database for this cycle's lsdata lurkers to network :) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WjHvUQGNfT7YyxeYHyK-pzPBt9hhLgff20ySSZt5Vng/edit#gid=0
  • 2:29 SubstantialFaultyCuttlefish: what on earth. It's past 2 am there?
  • 2:53 lil-froggo: apparently
  • 2:55 lil-froggo: super cool work from xoxogirl the sheets expert
  • 3:06 evilkermit: if my NYU portal shows DLS, is that a R?
  • 3:07 lil-froggo: good question
  • 3:09 evilkermit: rip for those who updated their statuses to R's, what does it say in your portal?
  • 3:09 lil-froggo: i dont think anyone else is gonna be here rn haha
  • 3:10 lil-froggo: i feel like they had something more than just decision letter sent
  • 3:10 lil-froggo: or how would they know
  • 3:10 evilkermit: rip i'm stupid they did email a letter
  • 3:10 evilkermit: fat
  • 3:10 evilkermit: R
  • 3:11 lil-froggo: aw ;_;
  • 3:11 lil-froggo: that sucks, sry
  • 3:13 evilkermit: looking like i'll be R&R :/
  • 3:14 lil-froggo: aw shucks. idk your results or stats to comment but
  • 3:17 lil-froggo: if it's any consolation to you, this is my 3rd cycle attempting to apply and my app would have been so weak without years of work experience and the base i built in the first two cycles I attempted somewhat but didn't actually apply
  • 3:21 evilkermit: thanks for sharing, lil-froggo. i'm most concerned about my PS? I feel like I shared a lot of myself in my current version
  • 3:21 evilkermit: and the schools expect a new PS